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rudewarrior · 07-21-11, 02:36 PM

@Vendor:

Thanx for the info pass-on, sorry I got so cranky. I will explain a little more below.

@Sailor Steve:

Thanx for the info, this is a little more in line with what I am looking for, and it helps me out more than you might think.

Let me offer a little explanation here. I have been following the development (and using) h.sie's wonderful Sh3.exe mod, that has a brilliant milk cow fix. I haven't had an opportunity to actually use the U-tanker portion, but I have been contemplating using it as a substitute for surface resupply. However, I haven't been able to find any sort of information about what actually happened at the surface supply ships.

I try to play the game as reasonably realistically as possible, i.e. if my submarine sinks I don't run out and drown myself in my bathtub.

So now that I have options on what to do with this surface ship resupply, I am trying to make it conform as much as much as possible to what really happened. Based on my research and my limited understanding of naval warfare (I was in the Army), it would seem to me that this resource was used sparingly, and only under certain circumstances. I'm guessing priority was given to (in this order):

1. U-boats that had expended most/all of their ordinance and were intending on going home, but were close to "bingo" fuel, i.e. close to the minimum fuel required to get home.

2. U-boats that had just arrived, and were directed to top off their tanks so they would have the maximum amount of fuel to burn running at higher (combat) speeds.

What seems clear to me is that the actual docking as is currently in the game is highly unrealistic. It gives you a full torpedo loadout, and IIRC it repairs your u-boat to 100% and give you a full tank of gas. It would seem to me that getting any sort of major repairs, let alone hull damage repairs, would be highly unlikely. Also, torpedoes would most likely not be given out, but I could see them being xferred, b/c I suspect that these resupply ships would be equipped with some sort of winch/crane system to xfer any sort of supplies. For the first case listed above, it would seem they would give you enough fuel to get home plus a little extra just to be sure. For the second case, they might top you off, but the assumption would be that you had burned off a less than significant amount on the way out.

I guess what it all boils down to is that this is just my opinion. Unfortunately, when I was working on my PhD in Physics, one of the first things that was drilled into my head was not to trust my opinion. It is real important to me to either get facts, or get the opinions of people who are more knowledgeable than I. So ultimately, that is what I am looking for. If I can do the best I can to force at least a compromise in the game than leans towards a realistic solution, I would be satisfied; however, I also have to know exactly what that solution is to feel that I am going in the right direction. But, if there actually is nothing out there, at least with some experienced people's opinions, I might be able to construct some reasonable approximation of what happened, and ultimately, it may not be that different from my opinion, and thus acceptable.

I hope this explains what I am attempting to achieve.

07-21-11, 02:36 PM	#10
rudewarrior Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Middlebury, VT, USA Posts: 378 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 2	@Vendor: Thanx for the info pass-on, sorry I got so cranky. I will explain a little more below. @Sailor Steve: Thanx for the info, this is a little more in line with what I am looking for, and it helps me out more than you might think. Let me offer a little explanation here. I have been following the development (and using) h.sie's wonderful Sh3.exe mod, that has a brilliant milk cow fix. I haven't had an opportunity to actually use the U-tanker portion, but I have been contemplating using it as a substitute for surface resupply. However, I haven't been able to find any sort of information about what actually happened at the surface supply ships. I try to play the game as reasonably realistically as possible, i.e. if my submarine sinks I don't run out and drown myself in my bathtub. So now that I have options on what to do with this surface ship resupply, I am trying to make it conform as much as much as possible to what really happened. Based on my research and my limited understanding of naval warfare (I was in the Army), it would seem to me that this resource was used sparingly, and only under certain circumstances. I'm guessing priority was given to (in this order): 1. U-boats that had expended most/all of their ordinance and were intending on going home, but were close to "bingo" fuel, i.e. close to the minimum fuel required to get home. 2. U-boats that had just arrived, and were directed to top off their tanks so they would have the maximum amount of fuel to burn running at higher (combat) speeds. What seems clear to me is that the actual docking as is currently in the game is highly unrealistic. It gives you a full torpedo loadout, and IIRC it repairs your u-boat to 100% and give you a full tank of gas. It would seem to me that getting any sort of major repairs, let alone hull damage repairs, would be highly unlikely. Also, torpedoes would most likely not be given out, but I could see them being xferred, b/c I suspect that these resupply ships would be equipped with some sort of winch/crane system to xfer any sort of supplies. For the first case listed above, it would seem they would give you enough fuel to get home plus a little extra just to be sure. For the second case, they might top you off, but the assumption would be that you had burned off a less than significant amount on the way out. I guess what it all boils down to is that this is just my opinion. Unfortunately, when I was working on my PhD in Physics, one of the first things that was drilled into my head was not to trust my opinion. It is real important to me to either get facts, or get the opinions of people who are more knowledgeable than I. So ultimately, that is what I am looking for. If I can do the best I can to force at least a compromise in the game than leans towards a realistic solution, I would be satisfied; however, I also have to know exactly what that solution is to feel that I am going in the right direction. But, if there actually is nothing out there, at least with some experienced people's opinions, I might be able to construct some reasonable approximation of what happened, and ultimately, it may not be that different from my opinion, and thus acceptable. I hope this explains what I am attempting to achieve.