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Shadriss · 07-10-11, 10:29 PM

First Brod... hats off to you. Those 637 boats were pretty small... larger than an '88 for crew amenities, granted, but still small.

That said, I still have to disagree with you. My statements still stand valid - you know as well as I do that officers are not specialists. Nor are they intended to be. Saying that the difference between "a good captain and a great captain" is his ability to do everyone else's job is disingenuous at best. You use the example of a CO making corrections to the chart... that, I would expect a skipper to be intimately familiar with. As the CO, he is directly responsible for the safe navigation of the ship. He should (and will, if he wants to make O-6) be very knowledgeable in that field.

That doesn't translate over (directly) to the sticks. While he MAY, as a JO, have stood DOOW (Diving Officer of the Watch for you non-mil types), he would be familiar only with the general operations of those planes, not the specifics. And, honestly, since about the only officers that stand that watch EVER are CHOPs (Supply Officers...) that aren't even in Line Officer commissions, even that is unlikely. Again, the skipper relies on junior ratings for the physical operation of the sticks during all operations, a senior first or CPO at the BCP for pump and ballasting operations, and another senior CPO as the DOOW.

Those stations are separate watch-stations FOR A REASON. In no universe than I can concieve will the CO go to the OOD and request permission to relieve the inboard station, normal power, normal indications, steering course 100, ordered depth 160 feet. And the same applies to the COW, the DOOW, or the outboard station.

I'm not sure if you did your 20 or not, and really, i guess it doesnt matter, but it sounds to me like you want to relive your life aboard the boat again... if that's really the case, I know of at least one list out there in the interwebs just chock full of suggestions to help you do it. Don't ask to take over everyone else's job on the ship - why bring them if you dont let them act as they need to?

STS1/SS

07-10-11, 10:29 PM	#14
Shadriss A-ganger Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hooper, UT Posts: 80 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	First Brod... hats off to you. Those 637 boats were pretty small... larger than an '88 for crew amenities, granted, but still small. That said, I still have to disagree with you. My statements still stand valid - you know as well as I do that officers are not specialists. Nor are they intended to be. Saying that the difference between "a good captain and a great captain" is his ability to do everyone else's job is disingenuous at best. You use the example of a CO making corrections to the chart... that, I would expect a skipper to be intimately familiar with. As the CO, he is directly responsible for the safe navigation of the ship. He should (and will, if he wants to make O-6) be very knowledgeable in that field. That doesn't translate over (directly) to the sticks. While he MAY, as a JO, have stood DOOW (Diving Officer of the Watch for you non-mil types), he would be familiar only with the general operations of those planes, not the specifics. And, honestly, since about the only officers that stand that watch EVER are CHOPs (Supply Officers...) that aren't even in Line Officer commissions, even that is unlikely. Again, the skipper relies on junior ratings for the physical operation of the sticks during all operations, a senior first or CPO at the BCP for pump and ballasting operations, and another senior CPO as the DOOW. Those stations are separate watch-stations FOR A REASON. In no universe than I can concieve will the CO go to the OOD and request permission to relieve the inboard station, normal power, normal indications, steering course 100, ordered depth 160 feet. And the same applies to the COW, the DOOW, or the outboard station. I'm not sure if you did your 20 or not, and really, i guess it doesnt matter, but it sounds to me like you want to relive your life aboard the boat again... if that's really the case, I know of at least one list out there in the interwebs just chock full of suggestions to help you do it. Don't ask to take over everyone else's job on the ship - why bring them if you dont let them act as they need to? STS1/SS