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Old 07-09-11, 11:02 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by Stealhead View Post
Yeah I can see that there are still lots of "old guard" still around.Also I know a lot of former Soviet citizens that just decided to simply leave and live some place that already is better. I dont know much what most former Russians think most people I know are truly Ukrainians like my in-laws so I figure they might have differing opinions than ex Soviet Russians do.
On some issues, I think there'd be differences, but on this particular issue most former/present Ukrainians I know would agree with the Russians. A large portion of my family's friends are from the Ukraine and I think their impressions would agree with mine.

Meanwhile this whole discussion reminded me of this classic song. Almost 30 years old, but may as well be about this whole thing we're talking about today



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Originally Posted by translated lyrics from Russian
Akvarium - Train On Fire

Colonel Vasin arrived at the front with his young wife
Colonel Vasin called up his regiment and told them "let's go home"
We've been fighting this war for 70 years, they taught us that life is a battle
But according to new intelligence, we've been fighting ourselves all along

I've seen the generals, they drink and eat our death
Their children are going mad from the fact they have nothing else left to want
And the land lies in rust, churches are mixed up with ashes
So if we want to have somewhere to return to, it's time to return home

This train is on fire, and there's no brakes left to hit
This train is on fire, and we can't run anywhere
This land was ours, until we got bogged down in struggle
It will die if it remains noone's - time to reclaim this land for ourselves

And all around torches burn, it's an assembly of all fallen units
And the people who shot at our fathers make plans for our children
We were birthed to the sounds of a march and they scared us with prison
But time to stop crawling on our belly - we're already back home
So as far as 'encouraging people to rise up', it's been said in the clearest of voices for years. Shame noone's been really listening all this time.
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