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Originally Posted by MH
same people who do yada yada about separating church from government want to force church to marry gays.
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I don't remember seeing anyone say that the government should force any church to perform a wedding the church does not agree with. For my first marriage, I had to comply with what that church asked of me before they would perform the wedding.
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Originally Posted by MH
AS FOR NOW ITS AGAINST MAINTREAM RELIGUS BELIFS.
ITS THEIR RIGHT TO VIEW IT AS WRONG THING.
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Any church is free to believe and require whatever they feel they need to, and no church should be forced to conduct a ceremony that goes against their doctrine.
My point in that thread was that creating separate civil unions independent from marriages opens up a number of possible questions, and that that process will lead, within a few years, to both civil unions and marriages being considered "marriage". Simply, language will shift to match with usage. Why not just go ahead and let it happen, instead of fighting vocabulary? Aside from that, it is a workable solution, and if that's what it takes, then so be it.
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Originally Posted by mookiemookie
Indeed it is, but it is completely abhorrent for a secular government to view it as wrong and disallow it.
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Wouldn't this be a case of the government not allowing churches to conduct gay marriages, even if the church feels it is appropriate?