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Old 06-02-11, 10:31 AM   #16
Tribesman
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It is already supposed to get you deported or charged now
No it isn't so no it doesn't.

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BTW, the whole point of the OP article is the absurdity of NOT thiking they are criminals
Someone with a faulty light on a bicycle is a criminal, so they the same as an illegal immigrant who is the same as someone who didn't put enough coins in the parking meter who is the same as a murderer, after all they are all criminals so its all the same and it would be absurd to view their crimes or their criminal status any differently


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In the US, INS, though state laws could allow city/state employees to do so.
Its international relations so it isn't the State its the United States, so the State has to go with INS.
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This is the benefit of the plans like Rhode Island (which is nearly identical to AZ, and has been for years, but they are "blue" so the press didn't notice).
Would you care to look at the "nearly" bit which makes all the difference?
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There are many cases where the nationality of the person can be established if the authorities are empowered (and required) to do so.
So you want thousands of local national government bodies and many many thousands of private companies to take on federal powers, which will of course require huge oversight and a comprehensive system of training and checks and balances
Prove my point why don't ya

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Any police interaction at all, ditto
Ah, a problem there, can the police legally require an American to prove his citizenship, hey can they even ask him if theyu are not acting as federal immigration agents

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Huh? Police pull over car for not being registered or whatever.
Asking for a pile of lawsuits are ya
Besides which you don't even begin to address the issue.
So a police car stops someone in say New Jersey and finds out they are illegal, you say ship them straight to Mexico. Can you see the huge gaping hole in your "idea"?

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Oh, and interstate (and international) commerce and banking laws might be used to monitor sending money abroad.
Hey make every corner store a federal agency.
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Many would be grabbed in cars. Impound car, send criminal (illegal) home. Yard has weeds, and city come knocking (happens all the time here). Worker suspects illegals and is required to call authorities who check. Indeed illegals. They get rounded up, and contents of house removed (unless one person there is legal, then they take possession of all I guess (though charging them with aiding a criminal activity makes sense (same for anyone employing said illegals, mind you).
Well done tater, you just expanded the government payroll tenfold and started an expensive trash storage agency .

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but is not allowed to call INS on them.
So is that because it isn't their job, they do not have the federal authority because they don't have the training or is it because they don't get paid to....or any combination of them
Though I know you think it is because of the magic "voters" who miraculously will buck the trend as part of a secret conspiracy

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It's always funny when a non-american wants us to have less strict laws than everywhere else on earth for our borders
So is that a reading problem making you create that strawman or is it just your inability to address the issue which makes you makes it?
So to give you a chance to show you are not just blowing it out your hole with your fairytale version of the world...... can you find any examples here of someone calling for less strict laws ?


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I don't care even a little what the opinion of anyone not a US citizen is regarding US immigration law. It carries zero weight.
Which is a very silly attitude as non-US citizens and their opinions are key to any issue regarding illegal immigration to the US.
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