[tater]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

But what sort of crime, that is the question.

It is already supposed to get you deported or charged now, it's just not enforced enough (BTW, the whole point of the OP article is the absurdity of NOT thiking they are criminals).

By who?

In the US, INS, though state laws could allow city/state employees to do so. This is the benefit of the plans like Rhode Island (which is nearly identical to AZ, and has been for years, but they are "blue" so the press didn't notice).

How?

There are many cases where the nationality of the person can be established if the authorities are empowered (and required) to do so. Show up in the ER and you are not paying for the care? Check out who you are. They damn well do to bill everyone else (the billing people know). Here in NM they have a driver's license as KNOWN illegals. Any traffic accident (MANY involve illegals here in NM) should check. Any police interaction at all, ditto. Show license, if it is for illegals, deport them—better to deport the when they ask for license, but the democrats what them to VOTE here (and they do, illegally, it's proven now). You'll say, "how can the dog catcher, or the water utility, or hospital staff report illegals, it's not their job!" Guess what, docs are already required by law to report any injury that might be child abuse, for example. MIGHT be. They are not law enforcement, but they are required by law to do so. Guess what, my wife is just as expert in knowing an illegal when she sees one (yeah, there is a lot of cross over with legal mexicans, but right now most immigrants from mexico are illegal by far so it's a safe bet that a mexican is illegal (not a mexican-american, a mexican. Anyone here in the border states knows what I'm talking about even if someone in ireland doesn't—it's like a european spotting a US tourist on the street there, or us spotting a euro tourist (the ghey jeans are always a good sign).) Would you catch all? No, but you'd catch a lot.

Oh, and interstate (and international) commerce and banking laws might be used to monitor sending money abroad. Much of the income earned by illegals is in fact sent back home. Mexico supports illegal immigration because it brings billions of US$ to Mexico (money wired home). Anyone wiring money abroad should have a check on status. Have a status check to open a bank account, or to cash a check for anyone without an account (legit tourists will have passports and will leave a paper trail).

Really????? How does that work exactly?

Huh? Police pull over car for not being registered or whatever. They check status, and Juanita is illegal. She goes to holding, then off to Mexico. If she was guilty of any other crime, or had a warrant this would be no different, pulled over, or however caught, and taken to jail. The cops don't bring perps home to grab an overnight bag. They can run a check (and search her) for bank account information, etc tied to her name/address, and that money all gets taken, too.

Errrrr...how do you do that if you are deporting them immediatly straight from where they are grabbed?
Tater takes a "tough" knee jerk line on illegal immigration and creates for himself unworkable proposals bigger government and even more government expense funded by the taxpayers who according to him are nearly all on a free ride anyway

Many would be grabbed in cars. Impound car, send criminal (illegal) home. Yard has weeds, and city come knocking (happens all the time here). Worker suspects illegals and is required to call authorities who check. Indeed illegals. They get rounded up, and contents of house removed (unless one person there is legal, then they take possession of all I guess (though charging them with aiding a criminal activity makes sense (same for anyone employing said illegals, mind you).

Your argument is what? That since illegals are a net drain, spending any more to arrest them puts us farther in the hole so we should ignore them?

Hiring illegals should be fiscally dangerous enough that no one wants to do it.

Being illegal should be unpleasant enough that no one would want to.

Legal immigration should be increased, but anyone here illegally already should be disqualified if known (so get out, then come back in properly, in a line, like civilized people).