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Old 05-30-11, 09:26 AM   #389
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Originally Posted by Antar View Post
You're wrong. This in no reason to split Polish to "Polish" and "Free Polish". As a our colleague told, there are no occupied Poland territory like Vichy's France or Quisling's Norvay.

Germany and the Soviet Union invaded, on September 1 and 17 respectively, their respective sides of Poland, dividing the country between them. The Soviet Union denied the idea of Polish behaviour in any shape, the Polish state was to be abolished once and for all, and the Polish territory completely annexed and incorporated by the two aggressors (the Third Reich and the USSR).

As you see the idea of "collaborated Polish units" is the capital crime for all polish players.
Sorry Antar,
I'm not 100% sure to understand your point.

what do you mean by saying: This in no reason to split Polish to "Polish" and "Free Polish"

should we remove the "Poland" entry in cfg file, the "FreePoland" one or both of them?

Anyway let's doing things clear. By saying Poland and FreePoland we are meaning respectively: "German occupied Poland" and "Polish government in exile".

Although during Nazi and Soviet occupation Poland stopped being a national entity, we cannot remove the first entry (Poland), because it is used for assigning blue/red color to Polish territory into the strategic map (depending on its diplomatic state with Axis/Allied at various steps of the war). See the explainations by Zedi on this topic.
What can be done, I think, is not to assign to "Nazi ruled Poland" any shipping traffic, in order to spare Polish players to witness the "capital crime" of "(Nazi) collaborated Polish units" . If this is what you were complaining you should address your request directly to Zedi, possibly by providing him with historical evidence that such a units never existed.
as for FreePoland or "PolandInExile" entry, it is a new nation that we should add to defside.cfg file to represent the activity of Polish in exile Navy. Obviously it doesn't correspond to any territory on the map. I think there are plenty of historical proves about the involvment of Polish navy (and army) alongside Allied (especially UK) forces, so I presume this is something we have not to discuss here.
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