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Old 05-22-11, 08:36 AM   #182
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The bible doesn't teach rapture(pre-tribulation rapture). Bible scholar will tell you that too. But again the bible doesn't teach immediate life after death nor immediate judgment after death nor two judgments after death either(immediate and at the end of days).

The majority of Christianity has changed so much from the teaching of early church that the early church people would have not recognized it had they been alive.

The thing is most people are not smart enough to be critical enough. COMMON SENSE should be the ground for even any belief(be that religious one or atheism). Many of those who believe DO NOT even know the teaching of their belief EVEN when they read the bible daily. They are content with the thought they know Christianity from the lips of other people. It's much better to approach reading the bible as an honest and child like attitude so there's no preconceived ideas to pollute the understanding. It's absolutely outrageous that most Christians expect immediate life after death even when their Savior descended to the world of the dead for three days and rose not with the dead but from AMONG the dead. NOW most Christian think he can't never die and will live forever in one form or another. That's blasphemy. These people need to learn two words: Being a MORTAL and MORTALITY.

For God sake if people would live in one form or another after they died, what would there be a need for a SAVIOR in the first place? It would be just NATURE! It's outrageous to expect life after death without DIRECT intervention by the almighty God. Men don't live forever in one form or another.

Even when I know ghosts that I see rarely, death should encompass the ceasing of consciousness even to the spirit of dead people. In other words they should have been resting, waiting in the world of the dead, deprived of consciousness and not wondering around.
This is the problem, depending on what denomination, what scholars and a host of translation issues you can create a host of biblical doctrines that don't agree, but use the bible to prove each one. I studied the bible for years blindly accepting the doctrine of my denomination and bible college to boot. It was learning some greek that I had issues with my denominations teaching, but it was later in life that I studied the bible through many lenses, beside history, politics and culture...The fact is you can about prove any doctrine you desire , including rapture, pre, mid or post trib, dead in grave, with Christ right after death, etc..

To say many studied christians aren't studied would be wrong, many are and believe totally different.

The Lord can speak to people differently. I don't care how the Lord speaks to someone on what to do, it's when the Lord starts speaking to them to to tell me what to do I have issue.

In the end, man decided what books and writing to place in the bible, man translated it based on his cultural and often political agenda over and over.
Why it's possible the men that wrote scripture were inspired by God, I highly doubt the men that put the bible together were.
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