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Originally Posted by Bakkels
Which is exactly the psychologic profile of 'conspirationists'. Just two weeks ago a study was released that made a psychological profile of people that tend to believe in conspiracies, and it concludes that these people more often use manipulative techniques in real life. According to this study, they project their own personality on the way they see the world. Of course this study could be part of a conspiracy as well..
No offense by the way Phillip, but I just thought the study was worth mentioning. And it makes sense to me.
That being said, questioning the media is always a good thing. Especially in matters like these, usually our whole perception of the truth is solely based on what we see on tv. Now I can't and won't believe all journalists are part of some elaborate plot to make people believe a certain 'truth'. That's just BS. But I am critical at how easy journalists will often believe what they are being told.
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It's an interesting study, and part of it is correct: People do see what they wanna see, do believe what they wanna believe. But of course that if they do a thousand studies about conspirationism, all thousand will show evidence of how it's all in people's minds and it's all a fiction.
But the info the TV passes to you have a source. You think the journalists will make a deep study for weeks to determine what caused the building to collapse and then tell the public? No. The government will tell the media what to tell the mass. Has always been like that, will always be like that.
So, I do not believe right away whatever I hear, whatever I read. No. I dig down for more info and after I have enough evidence, I mount up my own conclusions.
I don't watch tv, don't read newspaper. That's not the raw info at all, thats only the info that has been put in front of your eyes to blind you from the truth.
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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
Well, it is crap. The first problem with any conspiracy is that it only takes one person involved to blow the wistle, and this would have taken dozens to pull off, if not hundreds. Please, show me any piece of so-called evidence and I'll bet I can show you what's wrong with it.
No, wait, that will only prove I'm in denial.
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The amount of people giving testimonials about what happened, both victims and scientists, people that were there, people that have some info... I've seen and read a huge amount of stuff about it.
So, we're down to this: 100 people tell you "It wasn't", and show weak evidence or no evidence at all. Another 100 people tell you "It was", showing some evidence.
Is it possible that the evidence is fake, and they convinced a thousand people to say the same thing? Yes. Anything is possible.
But IMO one side makes more sense than the other. I think in the end is a matter of personal preference about what to believe.
I say it all looks too suspicious, and even some stuff look ridiculous, impossible to chew. Feels like their feeding me crap.
Here between you and me, this stuff is just like religion. You tell a believer that god doens't exist and jesus is basically the adoration of the sun and church is just a money harvesting and mass controlling device, and he will not listen to you, might even call you crazy, and no matter how much evidence you show him, he will grab hold of his beliefs and fight to protect it. People are so desperately attached to their beliefs that they can't live without it, it's impossible to rip them of it. So no, it doens't surprise me what people believe and what people don't, and I don't ever lose my time trying to change people's minds, cos to be honest I think anybody have the right to believe whatever crap they want to believe.
What is the truth anyway? Nothing can be proved, not my theory, not yours. Maybe neither is the truth. All I have is a theory, the best I could craft with the info I gathered, and I'm happy with it.
So, I guess we can agree to disagree, eh? And I won't respect you 1% less just cos your believes don't match mine.
