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Originally Posted by Castout
And I just want to TESTIFY that God is REAL and UNIVERSAL whether one admits that or otherwise, whether one knows Him or otherwise. Any one man who claims he or she is enlightened and says that there is no God is either a liar and or a fool. I know this words mean nothing to you but I still write it so that you can remember when the time comes for you to know God.
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Ah, but therein lies the paradox and one of the real difficulties here: in terms of REAL and UNIVERSAL, you can only TESTIFY your own experience, but never 'reality' or 'universality' as such. If God is an individual pursuit, then as an individual you can't ever testify outside of your own field of experience, which precludes anything that's universal by default. Human experience can't adequately get at anything universal, and no amount of testimony will do anyone any good. In that sense, I wish that's another thing that I wish religious/spiritual people conceded: there's always a chance that what they see is universal is something that only comes to them, and may come in a very different form to others. If you believe God is something everyone has to have a personal relationship with, then you have to acknowledge that the experience of God can be completely different from one person to the next. If present at all. Otherwise, this becomes not about God universal but about proving your own little version of it as right.
The good news, though, is that a truly universal God can perfectly well speak on his own behalf and doesn't need spokespersons to do his bidding.