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Old 05-09-11, 05:23 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by magic452 View Post
You know I hope that you all will remember this and a hundred similar threads when you start to bash the good old USA saying that this or that works here in (insert any European country) so it should work in the US. That's hogwash.
And true for the American global missionising as well! It's not as if the USA does not try and does not claim that it is the best way to live and that all others have to do it in the same way, and have to copy American ideas of how things must be run, you know.

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The US is far more comparable to the entire EU and we can now see just how much harmony there is there now.

We have been dealing with a verity of different view points and needs, etc for 200+ years, maybe we know a thing or two about how to go about this.
Not saying we have always done a good job all the time, Lord knows we haven't, but we do have some experience with it.
What you do not have experience is how it is if you must unite not only different cultural habits and regional histories, but also grown, centuries-old national entities/countries. Your historyx has been short and never started on a nationalistic basis like it has grown over centuries in Europe. You for the most are the offsprings of immigrants, almost all of you, anbd people coming to you with few exceptions know that they have to leave their nationalö past they grew up in, behind them. Your civil war does not compare to the wars between european powers, becaue the two camps fought about opinions and laws, not about grown sovereign nations like in Europe.

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We are not Finland, Germany or England, we're the USA, with the good, the bad and the ugly. But we do have one flag. We also have UBL in the bag as well.
You said it yourself. You are just one country. We are four dozen countries. Not federal states, but independent nations each with its own unique history and different mentality in people, different rites and habits and languages. The EU and the US - just do not compare.

Just doing it like in the good ol' USA - most of the time does not work in other parts of the world. Like the EU has its faults in it'S claim for global missionising, your country has it'S own faults as well - and the attempt to implement American models in other places: this one is the most prominent one.

On your claim for Ameeican powers, you dominate militarily, but you have started to lack more and more in other fields for whjich to find solutions the military does not help. Power also is financial, and although the Euro is ill, the dollar is even more. Power also is economy, and the GDP for of the EU is bigger than that of the US, something that many Americans comfortably overlook when refering to their claimed global dominant economic role.
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