It seems that I am living in a different cell - or maybe I just get fed different pills...
Dear international community: I appeal to you to make your own picture of the country here, and not take Skybird's perception as an objective describtion of the German reality - neither should you see mine
The term Gutmenschen "good humans" is a parole, mostly used by the right, to bitch about blind moralistic and PC followers - a simular american term would be "bleeding-heart liberals".
One state attorney files a claim against a statement from the Chancellor: yes, this is really the thought police in action. Last time I checked state attorneys swear an oath to the constitution - damn these sneaky lefty, socialist Gutmenschen really manage to hide well, in this particular case the guy is in the office since 15 years until he got discovered. His argumentation was solely from a christian and juristic point of view.
Then we get an example about a demonstration against "inhumanity" in Landsberg in 1951, led by an (ex-?)Nazi, by people who complain against the death penalty of people who were sentenced to death for war crimes by american military courts. Hardly Gutmenschen, but people who more want to whitewash themselves from stuff they did in the war.
Now we switch to a beating in the Berlin subway from some weeks ago:
The guy who kicked the other's head in, did get released before trial. A judge decided, that there were no reasons for detention before the trial (Untersuchungshaft). Most people complained about this decision as being unfair to the victim and that the guy should have stayed locked up untill court date. I would not call this "sympathizing with perpetrators", but well...
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"Many Gutmenschen complained about that he did not forgive his attacker instead and shut up, and that it is not a moral thing to accuse the attacker of attempted murder."
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If it were this many, you can certainly show us some examples, where people demand that the vic should forgive his attacker. Please show the articles, letters to the editors, opinion pieces, etc. where people state this.
Some people pointed out that the judges decision was lawful, according to the law about Untersuchungshaft, as the judge saw that the reasons for detention like dangers of flight or repetition, were no given. When people wrote this in discussion boards, a ----storm usually broke out and people were told that they sympathize with the attacker - usually by people who do not understand that Untersuchungshaft is a tool of the pre-trial, not a punishment tool. Are those people maybe the cited Gutmenschen who demand the vic's apology?
Well, then we jump to a movie about the Baader-Meinhoff group, whis is covered under freedom of art at first. The producer, a multi-millionaire and capitalist, stated in a "Stern"-interview that he does not want to educate the people. People should think on their own about the movie - that's why he did neither glorify or demonize those people.
So a movie about criminals must be moralizing and judging and be in the right lines of thought? That is something that I would call "thought police"!
Btw: the last line of the movie is "Stop seeing them as something they never were.", which was also title of the interview and the cover title of the Spiegel edition which included it. Hardly a sympathizing stance.
How does this all this mix up to a "collective sin" which is deep buried into the German soul?
Sorry Sky, these statements show the contradictions of your own worldview. On the one hand you comolain that those PC, socialistr bastards want everyone to think in line, but when people state an opinion contrary to your personal views, and think out of the box of the majority's opinion, then they get attacked as Gutmenschen?
When somebody uses a law that restricts the freedom of speech, against your personal view, then this is bad? On the other hand you like to restrict freedom of speech? So are restrictions only good as long as they are not used against you or your very own views? Same as the total freedom paradoxum you cite so much, this is the restriction of freedom paradoxum...
I've already said this in the OBL death thread: the discussion if OBL's execution is justified, how he should have been captchured, or a discussion about morality about joy about a death, is a sign that we do not live in a police state where everybody follows the government's view unconditionally. It's a sign of a pluralistic society.
Can't type anymore, gotta get back into my straitjacket...