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Old 11-05-05, 07:44 PM   #2
caspofungin
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we've had similar arguments before, on other threads. in fact, you've quoted that before, right? for every sura you quote, i can quote one with a different "twist" on the relationship between muslims, jews, and christians.

we could sit here all day, quoting and counter-quoting, but the point, the very marrow of any argument about the relationship between islam and the west, is the interpretation of the quran.

true, some muslims will feel it is their duty to fight non-muslims. others will feel that there is a common bond between "people of the book."

so arguing about suras, quoting out of context or from different translations which make different implications, gets us nowhere. the topic of the thread is about muslims in western countries -- about certain groups which link religion to all aspects of life living in a secular society.

and personally speaking, the things that get my goat, that make me mad in terms of my personal relationship with western culture or societies, are how arabs and muslims are viewed and treated by some elements of western culture -- nothing rpt nothing to do with my personal interpretation of the quran. i'm sure that's true for a lot of other muslims too.
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