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Skybird · 04-12-11, 08:51 PM

Market left to itself. What do you expect?

You can trust that politicians mess up things. You can also trust that private business will suck from common interest like vampyres suck blood.

Both are like a rock and a hard place. And ordinary people sit right between them.

The German health care standard is not worse than the American. But our -often criticised as "socialist" - system costs us much less per head, than the american systems costs the American citizen. And thisalthough nowhere else inEurope drugs cost as much as in Germany, and by european standards I think the German spendings per head also make it a costly system to run, with galloping rises - which all flow into the pockets of that wonderful private business. We too get sucked out. The profits dissappear in private pockets.

At the same time, both strong lobbies and powerinterests bypolitical parties make sure that the political system is both unable and unwilling to tackle the profiteers.

Like democracy, marketeconomy only works on size levels not too big, making it less prone to corruption and egoism being put above communal interest. Make a market too complex, make a communal system too big, and see both derail and getting corrupted.

And no, it'S not that you can just get rid of it by having an election and voting somebody out of office and somebody else in. Both are products of the system's rules - so what do you expect of them?.

Chnage cannot be reached from inside such system, for that the profiteers are too powerful and have tailoired the rules of operation too much to their benefits and interests as if they need to just sit still when you tackle thesde interests. You need to tackle our crusted systems from outside, and bring their established structures of interests and personnel to fall.

But that does not chnage the fact that there are too many people on this globe, too big communities by that - and thus you cannot avoid that whatever you coinstruct to replace the current bad system - it will get corrupted and distorted again in the way the old one was.

I have come to the disillusioned conclusion that there is neither rescue for us nor a better world in the future - with so many billion people running around.

We are waaayyyyyy too many, both on a planetarian level, and on level of national communities in the developed world.

04-12-11, 08:51 PM	#9
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,663 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Market left to itself. What do you expect? You can trust that politicians mess up things. You can also trust that private business will suck from common interest like vampyres suck blood. Both are like a rock and a hard place. And ordinary people sit right between them. The German health care standard is not worse than the American. But our -often criticised as "socialist" - system costs us much less per head, than the american systems costs the American citizen. And thisalthough nowhere else inEurope drugs cost as much as in Germany, and by european standards I think the German spendings per head also make it a costly system to run, with galloping rises - which all flow into the pockets of that wonderful private business. We too get sucked out. The profits dissappear in private pockets. At the same time, both strong lobbies and powerinterests bypolitical parties make sure that the political system is both unable and unwilling to tackle the profiteers. Like democracy, marketeconomy only works on size levels not too big, making it less prone to corruption and egoism being put above communal interest. Make a market too complex, make a communal system too big, and see both derail and getting corrupted. And no, it'S not that you can just get rid of it by having an election and voting somebody out of office and somebody else in. Both are products of the system's rules - so what do you expect of them?. Chnage cannot be reached from inside such system, for that the profiteers are too powerful and have tailoired the rules of operation too much to their benefits and interests as if they need to just sit still when you tackle thesde interests. You need to tackle our crusted systems from outside, and bring their established structures of interests and personnel to fall. But that does not chnage the fact that there are too many people on this globe, too big communities by that - and thus you cannot avoid that whatever you coinstruct to replace the current bad system - it will get corrupted and distorted again in the way the old one was. I have come to the disillusioned conclusion that there is neither rescue for us nor a better world in the future - with so many billion people running around. We are waaayyyyyy too many, both on a planetarian level, and on level of national communities in the developed world. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.