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Originally Posted by Mouftic
I did a research on Canadian escorts death during torpedoes attacks.
689 dead and 383 survivors...
I think this classifies in "high death rates" section and thats not to mention the others that perished due to collisions, fire or storms because it is not really the subject we are in.
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I can't argue about death rates, but we were talking about explosions. They did happen, but weren't all that common. That was my only point.
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bah.... i said quite often in my first post and then normally in another. Sue me. 
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I'm not a lawyer, but I have played one at Subsim. It wasn't pretty.
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I only researched the Canadians implications and found two out of ten that "did" mentionned it. We can only speculate on the others, but let's be realistic here. There are 2 others that were lost with all hands.
Let's say 4 out of 10, that could be considered "quite often".
Let's add 2 more and we have "normally".
But your "difficult" doesn't apply, does it?
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"Let's say"? Speculation is not fact.
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I'll repeat a quote someone once told me: "Do you have a record of the number of frigates exploding vs. those not exploding due to ammunition?"
Not sure I remember who though.
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My point was that there were far (and I mean vastly far) more sinkings of small warships in which secondary ammunition detonations played no part. Your original statement "normally" which I commented on made it sound (to me, at least) as if this happened almost every time an escort was sunk. My observation is that that is not even close to being true, so I objected.
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Nope, not on that occasion. You are right. But what was in big bold letters was what I was reffering to. Here, i"ll make it bigger for you.
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Now we have a different problem. The author of that article doesn't site the "other rapid sinkings", which results in what is known as an unsubstantiated claim. It would be no different if he had said that other rapid sinkings happened because there was a problem with hatch seals on all those ships. Unless he shows that that was actually a cause, he's just guessing.
And again I have the same problem. The author also mentions the boilers exploding, presumably at the same time he mentions crew being "sucked down with the ship". Boiler explosions are indeed a common occurence, but I can find no other source which uses that phrase. In fact Uboat.net's article
http://www.uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/824.html states that Louisburg was hit by "bombs and torpedoes", plural, which implies a different story than the one in that book.
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Either you are a politician or a journalist.... not sure which one.
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Neither. What I am is a careful researcher who doesn't like phrases that suggest that something happened all the time when in fact it was uncommon at best. In game design features should always be based on facts. Generalities will bite you every time.