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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I said "difficult", not "impossible". My initial response was to you using the word "normally" in quoting a high death rate.

I did a research on Canadian escorts death during torpedoes attacks.
689 dead and 383 survivors...

I think this classifies in "high death rates" section and thats not to mention the others that perished due to collisions, fire or storms because it is not really the subject we are in.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Again, I didn't say it couldn't, or didn't, happen. You said it was a normal thing.

bah.... i said quite often in my first post and then normally in another. Sue me.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Do you have a record of the number of frigates exploding vs. those not exploding due to ammunition?

I only researched the Canadians implications and found two out of ten that "did" mentionned it. We can only speculate on the others, but let's be realistic here. There are 2 others that were lost with all hands.

Let's say 4 out of 10, that could be considered "quite often".
Let's add 2 more and we have "normally".

But your "difficult" doesn't apply, does it?

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

By-and-large torpedoed frigates did not suffer secondary explosions.

I'll repeat a quote someone once told me: "Do you have a record of the number of frigates exploding vs. those not exploding due to ammunition?"

Not sure I remember who though.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Which says the depth charges did not explode.

Nope, not on that occasion. You are right. But what was in big bold letters was what I was reffering to. Here, i"ll make it bigger for you.

"AB T.D.H. Malone had set the depth charges to “safe” before the ship was struck and this action undoubtedly saved many lives. But he himself was not one of the survivors. Malone received no official recognition for doing his duty but he is remembered with gratitude by those who were rescued. In other rapid sinkings many Canadian sailors were lost while they were in the water, through the explosion of depth charges of foundering ships."


Edit: HMCS Louisburg sank in four minutes. The torpedo itself apparently killed a small number of sailors. Most of the crew made it into the water, but many died there, either by being sucked down with the ship or when the boilers and some depth charges exploded.

Page 139.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=Ig-A36yZ4rMC&pg=PT149&lpg=PT149&dq=hmcs+louisburg+sin king&source=bl&ots=jHkOBL_5T5&sig=w4EyyOqIB9AH3ckW RPvecvjtzZE&hl=en&ei=1dKeTaKNL5DTgQewiPnbDw&sa=X&o i=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CE4Q6AEwCA#v =onepage&q&f=false






Either you are a politician or a journalist.... not sure which one.

ok, your turn....