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Old 11-04-05, 07:15 AM   #38
Kissaki
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Default Re: Western culture gone too far ? In light of clash...

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Our churches are empty, Abraham, yet mosqs are loaded with believers.
I kind of feel guilty for not being a church-goer for I feel I am abandoning my forefathers who once made this land great.
Who would you be worshipping? Your god, or your forefathers? Religion should be a matter of personal faith, not familial obligation. My parents are devout Christians, and I love and respect them like none other, yet I cannot be a Christian for their sake. If I don't believe, I don't believe. I am still officially a member of the State Church, however, because I know it would pain my father to see me leave it. To me it's just a piece of paper anyway, and I have no need to demonstrate my actual beliefs.

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Think of our golden 17th century, on which our current wealth is still largely based. Our forefathers would probably kick our asses. Admiral Michiel de Ruijter was the kind of Dutchman this land needs in large numbers. Firm in his principles, big in action.
Like several Muslim leaders today, then. Good job civilization isn't about survival of the fittest.
You seem to be the kind of person who is prepared to throw everything of proven value away just to look smart and enlightened. Not to me tho'.

This extreme liberalism is actually just about youth and being still naive. We all have been there once when we were younger.

But one day you'll remember this thread. Even Skybird sees his past (travels) in a different light now, or so he shared with us recently Developing a good degree of rational awareness and intuition often takes a lifetime and even then most people dont get it.
You got it all wrong, I only discard what cannot be proven. Your assumptions do not match the "wisdom of the ages" that you claim to possess. I am old enough to realize that I know nothing. My days of eager idealism are long gone. But I am also old enough to discard passion for passion, and criticize everything I see. What I said above stands. If family decides a person's beliefs, the beliefs are not the person's own. And as such they are worthless.
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