[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Bakkels

Yeah Skybird, you're giving us Europeans a bad name like this. You just made that whole "presumed innocent until proven guilty" thing up. It's just not true.

No, you are not on possession of the full truth here. Because although the reversing of the pressumed -innocent-until-proven-guilty is not printed as such a reversal black on white, it is an implicit implication of the greater context of words or formulations. Due to changes in the German laws implemented on the basis of these new EU regulations, I know of at least one man, a friend of my parents, who just has lost in Hamburg a court case and was sentenced to a money fine. He is renting two appartements in the old town of Hamburg, and I predicted what I report here already three years ago: When having an open day for one free flat and several interested people showed up, amongst them was a man from Argentinia, he was one of several to be interested after inspecting the place. But that friend of my parents gave it to somebody else - and was sued by the Argentinian man for "discrimination", because he had not gotten it. The man renting the houses so far was handling such things on a basis of trust and not totally tight according the new EU-imposed law rules, becasue then if you rent a flat you are best advised to keep written and taped records of your inspectiuon tours, tell those people cming not a single word, do not answer questions , and do not tell anyone anything about whom you guess to accept later on. You also are best advised now to always have a witness with you, on your side. Mind you - Im talking not about the interested person, but the flat owner doing like this!

This friend of ours had not done all this, and the court followed the claim of the Argentinian that he was rejected the flat becasue he was Argentinian and of Latinamerican looks. Our friend could not prove in any way that that was not the case, even more so he had told a couple before that he considers to accept their request to accept them.

The claim for discrimination being his motive to reject the man form Argentinia, already was enough to sue him. the suspect was not proven guilty, but he could not prove he was innocent, and thus was sentenced.

Just some years ago, this would not have been possible. My parents friend considers to go to court again, this time with support by the local property owning organsiation called H+G. If he does, I'm sure it will become a case that makes it into nation al news headline. I will keep you up to date if this is the case and he really seeks the path of a legal battle over principle reasons.Unfortunately, he is no warrior-type of person, but is shy of conflict and is craving for harmonic relations with everybody. H+G wants to make it a case over the violation of the German constitutional and basic laws, making it an exemplary case, becasue surprisngly, the past court case has not raised any attention over here at all, like our own court case against fraudster trying betray over property questions to inmcrease a mosque here in my own home town als was refused by the press to be reported. Some minor lines in a local paper, that was all.

The wide public in Germany do not know about these things. But I'Äm sure flat owners renting such flats will become incrasingly aware of this problem in no time. Normal communication between them and intzerested people is almost impossible now, wihtoutr a running camera and mike present, becaseu almost everything they say can be used against the flat owner to sue them over discrmination. And the allegation already is sufficient evidence as long as the accused cannot prove his innocence.

Look beyond the end of the prnted line in your EU booklet. You do not get the meaning fi you take it literally and each sentence one by one, islated from the others. The dangerous stuff lies not in the EU constitution text nor in the declaration of rights themselves, but in the appendeices which are or biblic proportions (I think 16 pages treaty text, but almost 700 pages appendices - guess where the real important stuff is laid down!?).

Mind you, I have predicted these implications and warned of them already several years ago, before Lisbon became valid. And I have complained about the flat-renting implication back then, too, because my family rent 3 flats ourselves, too, and can be effected by these laws. You cannot image how cautious and tightlipped we have become.

The opportunity for abuse is immense here. And that si why the social engineering experimentators wanted it to be like this: flat owner should be intimadated to not reject foreigner the EU has brought into the country/Union, thast way migration policies that are opposed my silent majorities of populations nevertheless should be enforced by making it criminal to refuse foreigners. And the more to the left and green side of the specvtrum you loook, the more you see the demand that certain subgroups of migants even should get special, preferred treatement.

It is the same with the criminalisation of critizism of Islam and religion. Enforce acceptance of it by criminalising critical opinion and questions about it. That simple. Facts not wanted? Forbid them.

I don'T give Europeans a bad name - Europeans do that all by themselves - by allowing the EU to exist on, and constantly worsten things in the name of politically wanted social experiments and politically correct ideologies, and the madness of the transfer union. It is a dictatorship, plain and simple. It reminds me of the idiotic utopia they painted in this wonderful ironic action movie by silvester stallone, "demolition man". The place looked like pure harmony and peace - but was a pure dictatorship.

Grab some stones and foul eggs and chase all those politicians out of office, out of town, and off the continent. 9 out of 10 of them are not worth anything, and do not deserve the smallest of trust or respect. Chase them away, do not legitimate their corrupt system anymore that is only tailored to serve their power interests. Bring down lobbyism, without exception from this rule. It is no highly civilized ingredient of democracy, but it's death sentence.