[Abraham]

I basically agree with Sixpack that Western society has lost touch with its values and has gone too materialistic. If you believe money is everything you'll find out some day that actually it is nothing.
On the other hand, Western values have not gone through the drain. They are still here and can be taken up again (and defended if necessairy) by a new generation. They have helped Europe through ages of devellopment and have themselves deepened during those ages.
I sometimes feel that the hars confrontation with fundamental Islam is a challenge for Christianity and Humanism. They are flexible enough - contrary to fundamental Islam - to adopt the those new challenges.
I'm not sure that's going to happen, but it certainly is a possibility. This thread is proof of that.