[Skybird]

Isn'T it simply unimportant what the UN and resolutions and NATO statements claim to allow, to legitimate and to intend? The actions shows us the participating parties try to kill Gaddafi in person, and to militarily enforce regime change - I think that is obvious by recent days activities.

I am surprised that they really try that now, after that long hesitation of theirs, and the late beginning of the air raids I complained about in another thread. Either I was wrong from th ebeginning on, and along with me some others here as well, or something has changed in some nations' basic attitude since then.

It'S just that the situation of our information status also has changed, and we meanwhile have collected hints that our uncertainty about the rebels' nature, idenity and intention has to be replaced with some certainty that at least some of them cooperate with Al Quaeda. Which means my hopes have been unjustified.

But however, leaving Gaddafi in place is a totally unacceptabler option now, the rebels do not tolerate it, and we cannot allow it as well - too often he has treated us like s##t. And that is why we shall not support Erdoghan's attempt to mediate a seize fire and leave Gaddafi in power by a deal with the rebels, by which the Turks try to install themselves as the great shining exmaple again for Islamic countries, nor shall we listen to the Russians demanding to stop cracking down on Gaddafi'S troops.

The regime must be destroyed now, no matter what. We have entered that stage of the game, and we cannot simply exit now.

That is all we need to know currently.

Whether we want to do business with the government coming after Gaddafi, is something we currently can no longer take into account. We deal with that question when the time has come.