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Old 11-03-05, 09:52 AM   #13
wetwarev7
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Originally Posted by wetwarev7
I agree. If you ever get a chance, check out Egosoft's X3: The Return. This series is by far the best space game, period. I first learned of it when they had just come out witht the expansion pack for the first one, and I was able to order it and the expansion, with overseas shipping, for like $25(US), because there was absolutly no marketing for it here in the states.

I find that as a rule of thumb, the more marketing a game has, the less likely it will be a ground-breaking or epic experience, and almost ALL games made in the States by large companies are market driven. All the best, classic games I can think of were all made by people or companies who were, at the time, nobodies.
I would like to know if you have played X3 yet? And what do you think about the state of the game now? Do you think they should have released a game that was unplayable right out of the box? I realize there's a patch now to correct most of the bugs but this type marketing strategy is terrible. I really don't feel I can get a realistic answer on the Egosoft forum. There are too many there who either have a Pollyannaish view point or post outright falsehoods in their overzealous attempts to support Egosoft. I have never seen anything like that on Subsim's forum. If I have a problem with a game here I usually recieve helpful responses and not someone telling me it's my fault or my computer's fault or my driver or vidcard etc.

Sorry for the off topic. I'll shut up now.
That's odd, aside from the usual troll or two, I've never had a problem with Egosoft's site. Of course, I haven't been there in a while, so there may be new people there - The regulars usually come back shortly after a release.

I haven't gotten my copy yet, still saving up so I can get it AND Civ4 (which I understand has bugs as well). I had heard a rumor that the cockpits wouldn't be included, but from what I hear, it would probably be modded in if it's not there allready.

I agree that the trend now(and has been for a long time) is to release a game before it's ready. It's a shame, and immoral, and unethical, and unprofessional, and should be a crime. I tried for a long time to get people united and send a message to developers that this was not acceptable. In the end, I just got tired of being angry about it(a bigger shame). Unfortuantley, I find myself just accepting the fact that I now spend my hard-earned money for half finished products. I must be getting old...
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