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Skybird · 03-27-11, 03:37 PM

Issues like this come down to a single question sooner or later: to what degree can the single one or the small minority expect the majority to design the majority's rules in favour of the minority or the single one? Where does natural, justified solidarity end and individual ego-centrism begin?

Must all public schools do lessons with a second teacher skilled in gesture for those few kids that are deaf-tumb, or is it more reasonmable to have all deaf-dumb children collected in a few exceptionnel school specialised on their needs?

Must all kids in a school change their own eating habits and behavior habits, that are quite natural for normal, healthy people, because of just one kid being allergic to certain agents in peanuts?

Years ago when i still worked in a store, one day there way a man in a wheel chair comi8ng to my cashdeks. He was in a bad mood and started to complain abaout us not being a faciulity totally derswiogfned to the needs of wheel chair drivers. He then complained that all the city and all the world is not designed to the needs of wheel chair drivers. I agreed that it isn't that way. He continued to reason that all world should be designed according to the needs of wheel chair drivers, and that the anti-discrimination laws of the EU demands it so. I said that this would mean that all the world would need turn according to the demand of a minority only, whereas I thinbk it would be more reaosnable if the small minority - the exceptions from the rules, if you want to put it that way - find themselves better places to live in according to their demands and needs, and that he maybe better finds one of those appartements designed for wheel-chair drivers, instead of all appartements now being changed no matter who live sinside of them. Which really blew him off. But he really pissed me, so I told him straight to the face that wheel chgair drivers are not the rule in our societies, but are the exception from the rule. And it is not as if they were not being taken care of at all. Their are taxis for their needs. Busses can lower to make it easier for them to enter. Appartements and houses are available where doors are wide and no stairs are being build in. After all, they are an exception from the rule,. not the rule of human design.

Shall all universe now start to revolve around the wheel-chaired sun?

If the kid at school is in danger to its life when visiting that school, then maybe it is a clever thing not to send it to that school. Like you also would not send a kid to school that is so vulnerable to germs and dust in the air that it must wear a breathing mask and on y rolling bed that is completely isolated from the environment.

One can understand parents of ill children that they want as much normality for their kids as possible. But fact is, kids with such diseases are noit that normal like the rest, the majority that defines the statistical norm of "normality".

But I think it is reaosmable to see that any attitude and attempt of the community around to meet these special demands and needs of the few, can only go so far, and not further.

And the many other childrens have rigfhts on their own, too. For example to eat peanut butter on their bread and maybe not cleanign their mouth every time they enter the classroom. It is quite normal for the overwhelming majority of children in our countries to do so. Must they all pass on this now - just because of the need of just one individual that by definition is ill?

I have a fruit allergy myself, harmless, but my nose goes watering like hell if I smell strawberries, and my mouth is terribly itching when eating certain fruits, amongst them apples and my second-favourite fruit of all - strawberries.

Shall I demand now that strawberries are banned from all public buffets, and no strawberry farms being run by farmers anymore, because their presence violates my right to walk along that one field without an itching nose, instead of just evading onto another path along another field...? And public markets! Ohg dear, I cannot walk a marketplace with all those vegetables and fruits without consuming two packs of cleenex per hour. Be social, guys, show your solidarity with me. Ban those damn markets!

I see the need for solidarity, absolkutely. I also knbow that biologists can show how apes act altruzistically and show soldierity, because in the end it not onyl serves the others, but themselves too. Crows and parrots and other birds also show this behaviour. But in our politically correct times, soldiartity has become a combat-term to battle through minority interests and to en force demanded ideolgic goals of said poltical correctness. Solidarity here, solidarity there.

Many people have missed the mark where solidarity was turned into harsh egoism and ideoplgoic warfare to kill opposing opinion by using rehtorical overkill - if you oppose this or that ideological drive, you now are "non-solidaric" - additional to being xyz-phobic, being intolerant, being right-winged, beign cold-hearted.

03-27-11, 03:37 PM	#44
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,834 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Issues like this come down to a single question sooner or later: to what degree can the single one or the small minority expect the majority to design the majority's rules in favour of the minority or the single one? Where does natural, justified solidarity end and individual ego-centrism begin? Must all public schools do lessons with a second teacher skilled in gesture for those few kids that are deaf-tumb, or is it more reasonmable to have all deaf-dumb children collected in a few exceptionnel school specialised on their needs? Must all kids in a school change their own eating habits and behavior habits, that are quite natural for normal, healthy people, because of just one kid being allergic to certain agents in peanuts? Years ago when i still worked in a store, one day there way a man in a wheel chair comi8ng to my cashdeks. He was in a bad mood and started to complain abaout us not being a faciulity totally derswiogfned to the needs of wheel chair drivers. He then complained that all the city and all the world is not designed to the needs of wheel chair drivers. I agreed that it isn't that way. He continued to reason that all world should be designed according to the needs of wheel chair drivers, and that the anti-discrimination laws of the EU demands it so. I said that this would mean that all the world would need turn according to the demand of a minority only, whereas I thinbk it would be more reaosnable if the small minority - the exceptions from the rules, if you want to put it that way - find themselves better places to live in according to their demands and needs, and that he maybe better finds one of those appartements designed for wheel-chair drivers, instead of all appartements now being changed no matter who live sinside of them. Which really blew him off. But he really pissed me, so I told him straight to the face that wheel chgair drivers are not the rule in our societies, but are the exception from the rule. And it is not as if they were not being taken care of at all. Their are taxis for their needs. Busses can lower to make it easier for them to enter. Appartements and houses are available where doors are wide and no stairs are being build in. After all, they are an exception from the rule,. not the rule of human design. Shall all universe now start to revolve around the wheel-chaired sun? If the kid at school is in danger to its life when visiting that school, then maybe it is a clever thing not to send it to that school. Like you also would not send a kid to school that is so vulnerable to germs and dust in the air that it must wear a breathing mask and on y rolling bed that is completely isolated from the environment. One can understand parents of ill children that they want as much normality for their kids as possible. But fact is, kids with such diseases are noit that normal like the rest, the majority that defines the statistical norm of "normality". But I think it is reaosmable to see that any attitude and attempt of the community around to meet these special demands and needs of the few, can only go so far, and not further. And the many other childrens have rigfhts on their own, too. For example to eat peanut butter on their bread and maybe not cleanign their mouth every time they enter the classroom. It is quite normal for the overwhelming majority of children in our countries to do so. Must they all pass on this now - just because of the need of just one individual that by definition is ill? I have a fruit allergy myself, harmless, but my nose goes watering like hell if I smell strawberries, and my mouth is terribly itching when eating certain fruits, amongst them apples and my second-favourite fruit of all - strawberries. Shall I demand now that strawberries are banned from all public buffets, and no strawberry farms being run by farmers anymore, because their presence violates my right to walk along that one field without an itching nose, instead of just evading onto another path along another field...? And public markets! Ohg dear, I cannot walk a marketplace with all those vegetables and fruits without consuming two packs of cleenex per hour. Be social, guys, show your solidarity with me. Ban those damn markets! I see the need for solidarity, absolkutely. I also knbow that biologists can show how apes act altruzistically and show soldierity, because in the end it not onyl serves the others, but themselves too. Crows and parrots and other birds also show this behaviour. But in our politically correct times, soldiartity has become a combat-term to battle through minority interests and to en force demanded ideolgic goals of said poltical correctness. Solidarity here, solidarity there. Many people have missed the mark where solidarity was turned into harsh egoism and ideoplgoic warfare to kill opposing opinion by using rehtorical overkill - if you oppose this or that ideological drive, you now are "non-solidaric" - additional to being xyz-phobic, being intolerant, being right-winged, beign cold-hearted. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.