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Old 03-22-11, 06:07 PM   #23
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Another question, in the more diatant context of this thgread: of what value is freedom, if the people/community in question does not value freedom, either by will, or lacking interest, or inability to value it?

And if somebody does not value freedom - does he deserve freedom then? Has he even a reight for freedom?

Must a slave be given freedom, if he does not desire to be free? Is it making any difference at all (except for yourself whose self-assessment may rise when you come along in shing armour and oin a white horse and offer hiom to free him)? Aren't you about freedom then for any other reason than your own narcissim, and to feel great by behaving as what you perceive as your gallantry? Kalil Gibran wrote that if you find a sleeping slave, you should wake him and explain to him freedom. But he wrote of a slave who already dreamed of freedom. - But what if he does not desire freedom, or cannot appreciate it? Maybe as a free man his life wpould not change at all, and he still woudl face a daily fight for survival. What vcalue has freedom then? Biologically, organisms tend to behave by the imperative of "the important things first". That is, securing the organism's survival. Is freedom an imperative priority here? What does it mean for a man not to live in freedom - is it enough to just exist?

How can and does love interfere with freedom?
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