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Originally Posted by Beery
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Originally Posted by Kissaki
Furthermore, I don't care how hard you train - certain instincts can't be untrained, certainly not with any methods currently employed. Robot soldiers is Hollywood.
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If I could keep my hands off my female coworkers at age 18 WITHOUT ANY MILITARY TRAINING, I'm sure any 18 year old can do the same WITH military training. If they can't, perhaps they shouldn't be in a situation where they have more serious responsibilities.
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If you look at any species of mammals, you'll be able to observe the male's protective instincts of the female. That's a really big problem, because it causes men to be over-protective of women in combat, and take unnecessary risks.
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Oh poor babies! If some men can't view a woman as a coworker, and if they can't switch off their base sexual urges while they are around women, then they need to see a doctor, because that is not normal. If what you were saying was true, then, like I said before, I would have been sexually assaulting women since the age of 15. Not only is your suggestion an insult to the military (since it suggests that the military is incapable of instilling discipline) but it is profoundly insulting to men. It shows a profound contempt for men - it suggests that men are controlled overwhelmingly by base animal instinct. On the contrary - we have brains that are able to control our passions. If we didn't, the world would be a very different place. Monogamy wouldn't exist for a start, and sexual abuse would be regarded as the norm.
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The problem with your argument is that you view them as "co-workers", which simply doesn't cut it. The military is not a job (it's an adventure! Sorry, couldn't resist :P ), it's duty and bloody sacrifice. It's not like you can go home at the end of the day, and the biggest enemy you'll ever see is paperwork. War is 80% waiting (filled with pointless duties), which creates boredom. The remaining 20% contains the combat bit (perhaps 5-10%), which causes great stress to the human mind, shellshock and the like.
There is a much greater need in the military to create a vent for their stress, because war-nerves can break down the strongest trooper. You run the risk of losing life and limb, and perhaps you see your friends lose life and limb. You just don't have that in blue-collar jobs. As a consequence, the military is the world's biggest kindergarten. Soldiers need relief, and find it through painting the town red - which usually include considerable quantities of alcohol and/or drugs. When you think of the levels of stress they go through combined with their youth, this shouldn't be a surprise.
Furthermore, in a regular job, you're not prevented in any way to pursue romantic relationships on your own time. A front-line soldier has no own time, except when on leave. But that's not enough. You can't train away someone's need for a companion any more than you can train away their need to eat or drink.