[Skybird]

Yes, both items were plugged in and were recognised by windows when installing the manager. From that moment on, manager installed, it is impossible to get a reaction from them, neither under the CH software or windows.

I read that many people have problems with proper recognition of their sticks and wheels and stuff, also those using Saitek or Thrustmaster. It seems to be a mess inside Windows 7, especially the 64 Bit version.

If that is the case, and Windows 7 being that long on the market now, future looks grim that there will be a quick remedy. Since it is a priority problem (comparable to be unable to print, if oyu cionsider how many gamers are out there), Microsoft should have moved this much much higher the priority list.

I even cannot be sure that a newly bought wheel would work. People report massive problems even with the latest of the latest hardware.

I need to get rid of the CH drivers, and then see how far I get when using both stick and throttle as windows sticks, needing to remap them in every sim and loosing two thirds of their programmability (2nd and 3rd command layer).

Somehow Windows 64 bit screws iut up, but I think CH control manager also has a problem with dealing with 64 bit environments.

And the stickhanger forum, they do not like my email-adresses. I have 7 adresses by web.de and telekom.de, all get banned even during registry. Great.

I admit I was hoping for a less troublesome migration to W7. Instead it reminds of the worst days in the beginning of XP, although i have 2 yerars of experience with Vista and one month of experience with W7, on systems I maintain for other people.