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Old 03-04-11, 10:52 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by the_tyrant View Post
Religious democracy vs secular tyranny

well, you know what side I'm on
Haha.

But indeed, if that's what the choice came down to, is that really a choice?
IMO the status quo was rotten. What will follow may not be what we want or need, but it is necessary or at least inevitable. "Our" only way out of that is nothing short of blatant colonial war, subjugation and/or genocide of some sort. Is that what you'd like to see instead? Is that a price you're willing to pay to maintain the west's liberty and justice - but wait, that wouldn't be liberty and justice at all anymore...

Fundamentally, as much as I disagree with Islamists, I think the "our sonofabitch" doctrine will never work anywhere, and whatever their motivations, the Arabs are right to accuse us of it. We've failed them before and turned a blind eye when we could've done something to change things positively for them instead of just grabbing bits and pieces of resources and political favour. So honestly, I can't see this any way except this: Islamist regimes are 'our' 'just' punishment here. But it's still not too late to try and exert some sort of positive influence and dampen this possible threat yet.
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