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Originally Posted by Kissaki
Nor are Muslims in our countries. Though it may please you to think so. When we get to the bottom of things though, what seems perfectly normal here may seem backward there, and vice versa - it's a matter of cultural perspective. How can you expect people to act contrary to their cultural upbringing?
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I am not expecting anyone to act contrary to their cultural upbringing, that's unrealistic in most cases. Which is exactly why I am strongly opposed to multicultural societies if the cultures involved have seriously conflicting backgrounds. If they do not want to act contrary to their cultural upbringing, that's OK, but then they should not come to Western countries and start demanding that we conform to their desires. And that's exactly what's happening.
My subjective opinion: Western culture is superior to theirs. And even they seem to agree to some extent, for practical matters, as many come here for economic reasons. But then they still want to impose their culture and religion, because they feel ours doesn't quite fit their expectations. One would have to be insane to support someone trying to replace your superior culture with his inferior one, no? In fact, anyone doing so could be considered a traitor.
And yes, imposing their culture is what they want to do. We see a really bad trend in Europe, with Islamists trying to grab power in cities where muslims are numerous, threatening and even killing people who criticise their religion, raping girls that don't behave the way a muslim girl should behave (even if it is not a muslim girl), attacking Jews, and to make matters worse we also have quite a few Westerners who can be called traitors in the way described above.
But, you can say, those are just extremists and criminals, and most muslims are not like that. Sure. I agree. The problem is, in that majority of non-extremists, will we find many who are loyal to the Western societies that host them? Or will they join the fanatics when their numbers become sufficient to start taking over, because the fanatics' view of society, while a bit too extreme for them, is still closer to what they want than our current society? Or maybe they just won't dare to oppose them?
While it certainly is unfair to look at a group of people as if it were composed only of its nastiest members, one has to keep in mind that the nastiest ones are likely to be far more active than the average decent guy, and will have much more impact on the group.