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Old 02-28-11, 01:51 PM   #12
Schroeder
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Originally Posted by jimbuna View Post
Rule no1...never point a weapon at anyone whether you believe it to be unloaded or otherwise.
Rule No2...if you have to aim at someone, hit him!

But yes, all this "I didn't know it was loaded" BS is really killing me. First thing to do when taking a gun is to check it's loading status and whether it is in "safe" mode (don't know what you call it in English). It's really not that difficult and you definitely don't fool around with it aiming at people regardless of it's loading status. The other guy probably doesn't know whether that thing is loaded or not and might get a shock when he sees someone aiming a gun at him.

Little anecdote from my army time. During our recruit inspection (the final test to pass recruit training that goes on for a week) our platoon was split up into two groups. One went to the live shooting range and the other had to do some other training with blank rounds. At the end of the day both groups came back together and cleaned their weapons. Since the "blank" group had already removed their blank adapters from their G36s no one could really tell who had been in which group. A not so smart soldier (and that is an understatement ) pointed his gun at another soldiers head while cleaning it and then: Bang!
Thank god it was just a blank but the guy who looked into the muzzle turned pale within one second. It took him some time before he realized that the other guy had not been with him at the live shooting range and he did get more than a little loud towards that idiot.
Well, the entire platoon did some extra push ups after that....

Before someone starts to complain about weapon safety in the Bundeswehr:
After shooting live ammo each weapon gets checked by an non commissioned officer for remaining ammo inside. So it's next to impossible to leave live ammo accidentally in the weapon.
This does not apply for blanks and that's how that guy could "forget" to remove all ammo from his rifle. Again this was of course a violation of the most basic rules of handling firearms as one always has to check and "dummy unload" weapons, whether they are loaded or not, before cleaning them or giving them to someone else.
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