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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike
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Originally Posted by caspofungin
Really? And what's your definition of "civilized?"
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Universal Suffrage and Equal Protection Under the Law are big on my list of requirements... 
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so the usa wouldn't count as civilized until 1964. bollocks. there's a difference between "western" and "civilized." Not exclusive terms, but not the same, either. so to claim that islamic countries are uncivilized because they don't conform to your own standards or conceits is misusing the term.