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Old 02-25-11, 09:58 AM   #65
Takeda Shingen
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Originally Posted by redsocialist View Post
Hahah really and your point?
I thought that my point was evident, but since you clearly haven't been following the course of your own conversation, I'll sum it up with the Cliff's Notes version.

You came to the forums damning the United States of America as decadent, corrupt and imperialist, in that quaint sort of paleo-socialist sort of way. You then proceeded to elevate Hugo Chavez's Venezulean regime as the alternative; an alternative that you presented as pure, pure as the new fallen snow. Chavez was the freer of the oppressed, supporter of liberty. However, as it is shown, Chavez simply offers a different sort of corruption. He and allies are oppressors, but they are not American oppressors.

Therein lies point. That Chavez is not under the American flag is the requirement that you hold. It is the only requirement that you hold. Human rights, democracy, capitalism, what despots one is in bed with; these things are, at best, secondary features. What you desire is anyone who is not an American. You'll cling to that, as your argument has already fallen all around you, and done so repeatedly. Such is the sign of immaturity.

So yes, the United States of America has been corrupt in foreign affairs, and been in bed with some pretty nasty guys. However, Chavez is equally corrupt, and in bed with some pretty nasty guys, albeit different ones. What you are saying is you prefer one style of corruption to another, and that is no argument worth hearing.
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