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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen
And what will it take for people like you to realize that eliminating constitutional rights for certain segments of the population results in the same sort of damage to American democracy that Sharia law poses?
Polemics. We're talking about denying the rights of people to run for and hold office.
Except Muslims.
I didn't say you did.
Yes, it would be unconstitutional, but that is exactly what you have been saying, and it is why we are having this argument right now.
That's not what you said before. If it was, I would have left you alone. Instead, you said that we should not have anyone in office who subscribes to the Islamic faith. Not that we should not vote for them, but that the should not be permitted to run.
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Okay, I was not saying in the OP we should actually pass any laws to prevent muslims from obtaining office, nominations to certain positions etc, because that would be unconstitutional.I was saying that it would be a terrible thing to have them in any position of power so we should do what we can via legal means to prevent it, I did not state that but I did not say we should pass a law to prevent it either, so assumed someone reading would understand I was not talking legislation etc.There are constitutional methods such as making sure Senators do no confirm one if nominated to SCOTUS, not voting for muslim candidates etc. Absolutely constitutional and nothing wrong with preventing it via those means.Not a race thing etc but it's because someone who holds beliefs that opposite of our constitution has no place in the governance of our society.They can live here, pray to their own special invisible man in the sky five times a day etc but they in no way should ever hold power over me or my fellow citizens.They want sharia etc, they need to move elsewhere.
I would like to say children of illegal immigrants born here are not citizens but according to the constitution as is, they are.I actually ended up defending birthright citizenship of illegal immigrant's children a few weeks back because I set my own opinion aside and argued on the side of the constitution against a colleague who was trying to twist the text in an intellectually dishonest manner.Hopefully we can amend the constitution sometime to stop this but until then, they are citizens if born here.I don't think muslims should be eligible to hold public office in the US but my opinion does not ovveride the constitution, no one's should.Get what I am saying? I was explaining why they should not be in any power when asked why it would be a bad thing, that is all.