[quote="jumpy"]
Is it really so supprising that the majority of moderate, civilised muslim devotees are being tarred with the same brush as the nutters? Afterall, is doing nothing to halt or prevent outbursts of such hatred and violence a tacit agreement to the overall cause? [/quote="jumpy"]
Thanks for sharing your story and your opinion, Jumpy. In answer to your rethorical question: No, it is no surprise. I am beginning to allow myself to firmly believe that the so called moderates are having the best of both worlds: Enjoy our high economical standards and thinking: "Heh, I am doing okay like this. And if my muslim brothers in the HOLY-ME are one day taking over world power, my good muslim family will welcome it. We will have paved the way so to speak. Either way we win. Allah Akhbar !"
Disclaimer: Like my sig states: I am a k.i.s.s. apostle and one could write volumes on this issue. I am not interested in a debate with Konovalov and Damo. Only people who have both a rational and intuitive understanding of the issue, and are liberated from PC, can grasp this. I am happy to see the Un-PCness is spreading throughout the West. Maybe it's not too late to collectively clean up the mess as much as possible or at least limit the virus to spread further...
[quote="jumpy"]
All of this is symptomatic of the breakdown in relations between communities and within communities. [/quote="jumpy"]
Yep, and I personally dont think we natives are primarily to blame for the apartheid between natives and immigrants. However I do blame our hippy-politicans from the 60-ies onward for being grossly naive. Also the Iron Curtain has an extra negative dimension for me, for without it Europe would have obviously developed better. The massive need for an islamic labor force would no doubt have been much smaller.
In the core the problem we are having in the West with primarily 'our' muslims is:
For a muslim there is basically only one distinction in life: Allah's/Mohammed's set of rules and the infidel's 'living in sin' unapproved of by Allah (jews, christians, atheists etc.). Guess in which camp we natives are projected ? Now who is generalizing ? We can not fully trust the muslim communities. Our governments are finally making harsher policy. And let me tell Konovalov, that's not because Sixpack told the PM he should do something about the hate preaching imams who are abusing our basic rights to forward radical intolerant crap straight from Iran, SA, Marrocco and what have you.
And on a final note, that moron in my class: As a teacher I would not have him in my class after his gross insult which expressed volumes about his deeper feelings and disrespect toward non-muslims (this teacher is not doing this to make money). Maybe he'll make the headlines a few years from now, after obtaining his navigation certificate: "Terrorist cell hijacks oil tanker on the North Sea and blows it up in industrial "Europoort" Rotterdam".
Okay, that's enough from me for now. Have a nice day