[Sailor Steve]

@ redsocialist: Please do not use the quote function and then add your responses inside the quote. It makes impossible to quote you without retyping everything you said.

Also your replies tend to meander from one subject to the next, sometimes in mid-sentence. This makes them difficult to respond to. But I'll try.

Yes it has, since 1776. Ever heard of the genocide of 300 million native Americans? Those are the "real americans" not people who come from countries the US has destroyed oppressed/ then call them "illeagle"

No, and neither have you. First, the vast majority of those were killed by disease, which is a tragedy but would have happened even if every European who came here had the best intentions. Yes, the Spanish colonists enslaved the native populations. For the most part the English and French left them alone. Are you aware that the first English colony was wiped out by the natives? No one is sure exactly why, but there isn't much evidence that the colonists did anything to warrant that attack.

In 1776 the largest nation on the North American continent was the Iroquis Federation, also known as the Five Civilized Tribes. Other tribes were considered "uncivilized" and at the worst enslaved and at the best treated as second-class citizens. The United States at that time tried to deal with the native population, not hurt them. Yes, we are guilty of lying, cheating and stealing, and of the occasional barbarism, and so were "they". I say "we" rather than the government, because most of it was done by people who wanted something, not an evil government. This was even true of the Spanish. Also, since we do believe in "Government of, by and for the People", anything the government does I consider my responsibility, even when I disagree; and I do disagree a lot.

I also say "we" and "they" in quotes, because I'm descended from English and Germans on my father's side, and some Native Americans on my mother's side, including Arapaho and Apache.

What about the "interventionism" during the Cold War, murdering democratically elected leaders, then install dictators that in turn slaughter they're own people MUCH more than any "evil communists" have. Augusto Pinochet ring a bell? oh How about funding Saddam Hussein, and selling chemical weapons.. to fight against Iran. The list would go on and on, but I don't have all the time in the world, so I'll let you find that upon yourself.

If you don't have the time to link references, then you shouldn't make accusations. As to this one, it's true. The US government has installed many people in power because someone thought it would be advantageous to fighting what was considered a greater enemy. I disagree - I don't believe we should do that sort of thing. That said, in America I'm free to say that. In Soviet Russia you couldn't disagree with the government without risking disappearing forever. How many of his own people did Stalin "purge"?

I don't hate Israel, and what few thread, I just have one other post saying Israel and USA are the real terrorists, and by that I mean the governments. I have friends that are jewish, from Israel, and are against the illeagle occupations.

But you sure sound like you do. You also sound like you're convinced you're right, and have no room for discussion. Let me ask you this: Have you ever said anything similar about the Arabic governments surrounding Israel?

Doesn't matter US will support anyone infavor who supports Israel, the majority are right-wing dictators. Though as usual USA labels those against Israel as dictators like the "evil tyrant of doom" Hugo Chavez who was democratically elected and continues to be.

That was not an answer to the question, but a diversion.

Of course not. Don't you understand economics? Corporations like countries that are "stable" so they can obtain more profit and make deals with them

Here you change the subject to seemingly further an agenda, without actually discussing anything. You keep throwing out claims, but not talking about them. You sound more like a propaganda broadcast than someone who really wants to discuss things.

All of the first-world countries should stop oppressing the world not just the USA. However, USA comes #1 to imperialism.

That's a fine accusation, but can you show that the US is more imperialistic than, say, China?

To you and most Americans its "freedom and democracy", to the rest of the world its imperialism and opression.

Really? Ha you sure are asleep then, WE're everywhere, though e don't all have the same idealogy. more in more around the world are becoming reds, anarchists, socialists, communists. We are building a United left front.

Then you should move to Somolia. That would be a great libertarian uptopia for ya

Yes it is

Obama is a puppet for the Imperialist state of USA and its biggest salesmen to sell the agenda, IMO. I used commie muslim nazi to poke fun at the absurdity of the right-wing loonies who go around saying USA #1! etc..

You really do sound like a walking propoganda machine. Is there any actual discussion in your soul, or is it all automatic hate? I'd like to know what you think your beliefs can do to better the world, and not just how evil certain people are. All the things you've said about America and Israel can also be said about any Communist state and any Arab state.

I'd like to hear what you really think, rather than one-sided attacks.