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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo
Let me tell you, the vast majority of soldiers in Iraq (and anywhere else) would like nothing better than to get flagged down on a patrol, told who, what and where the bad things are, and be able to handle those problems (be they people, IED's, weapon cache's, etc) discretely with a minimum of fuss (and danger). However, that doesn't happen in some places. So then you get into a bad spot, and it becomes a "you or them" equation. All the namby pampy hand wringing of "we shouldn't be there" doesn't do those grunts any more good than TP for armor at that point. Had the "innocent" civilian population stood up and not hidden the bad guys, it wouldn't get to that point. But they did. They are no longer innocent.
I'm sure this will be met with great disgust by some here, but I am going to say it anyway. Remember the story of Sodom and Gommorah? Had just a tiny segment of people be righteous, the cities would have been spared. The same applies here - had one or 2 souls in a village been brave enough to stand up for their own country and their own people, they could have saved that village.
To those brave Iraqi's, just as I do with our own servicemen and women.... I salute you. 
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The reason they're called innoncent, is because they're unarmed. I guess you expect the unrighteous women and children to take sticks and fight insurgents.
Actually about 70% of civilians killed were by airstrikes. You know, sitting at the table in your home with your family eating and boom..everything you love is splattered around you.
You know there was a reason journalist were embedded and controlled by the military to start with...
Only radicals invoke the name of God in killing, your logic is no better than the muslim radicals there.