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Old 02-05-11, 07:41 PM   #31
Kazuaki Shimazaki II
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Originally Posted by Skybird View Post
Kazuaki,

so you seriously argue that we shall actively assist in the assassination of a women (you said they would execute her) over charges describing a total bagatelle, in a regime that massively influences the justice and runs a known agenda to abuse justice for its own propaganda (whioch makes it an injust system not only by its laws, but its arbitrariness.
The system may be arbitrary, but the judgment in this case is correct. If we deny them this, the West are the arbitrary ones, not them.

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We could also start extradicting woman that fled from iran becausue there they would be stoned for having been raped, or their families try to kill them for being not slavish enough.
I did not say that, did I.

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And the European habit of not extradicting criminals wanted in the US for crimes thjat could earn them death penalty, also is unacceptable for you then, eh?
I'll say that the Death Penalty may be argued on its effectiveness merits, but is well within the Western zeitgeist's "permissible range".

In any case, IMO while one may very fairly dispute what are crimes. So no it is no problem to not extradite the women you said above, or for that matter a "political criminal" back to China.

IF, however, it is something that both moral system agree are crimes, be it murder or border violation, it is great cultural arrogance to not permit extradition because you think the punishment is too great.
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