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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
No. Not even close. The Right To Life means that no one has the right to take your life, unless you forfeit that right through some crime. It does not mean that you have the right to force someone else to pay for your problems. You can argue that people should do so, and that it's a moral obligation, but a Right is something you are born with, not something the government assigns to you.
Since it was Jefferson who enumerated those Rights in the Declaration, let's look at another of his quotes to see what he really felt:
"Still one thing more, fellow-citizens—a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities."
-Thomas Jefferson; first inaugural address, March 4, 1801
And another:
"The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits."
—Thomas Jefferson to M. L'Hommande, 1787
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Ahh more libertarian magic dust.
Im not saying the governemnt has to have universal health care (although it would be a good idea). I'm saying the government ought to do something about spiraling healthcare costs, and insurance companies screwing their customers. I think thats something we can agree on. But you seem to be dead set on jumping right to universal health care, and going off on some "don't take my money" tangent.
which is ironic, because many of you have no problem paying for other socialized programs that help other people. Under your rational, I should be incensed that i'm made to pay for the cops. I mean, I've never had call the police...so why should i have to pay for all those people who can't defend their own homes, or are just so "stupid" to live in a bad area.
on the subject on the Jefferson quotes, If those men thought everything they said was perfect in every way, we couldn't amend the constitution. Jefferson says something about "refraining men from injuring each other" I'm sure if he say an insurance company doing everything they could to deny coverage, when they needed it to get better, he would classify that as helping to injure somebody