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Originally Posted by Tribesman

You must have, after all there is apparently only MH and the other here so you must be the other




Settlements...got to go , making "facts on the ground" makes only one fact, they are illegal and if you want to make a settlement based on legality and claim to be following international law then they have to go without question.
Besides which they are too expensive to maintain, after all thats why the unilateral pull out went ahead in Gaza.
What to do wih the illegal settlers is simple, apply the absentee laws to the huge stock of vacant housing in Israel itself and that will also lower the housing/welfare subsidies and security cost.

Whole stock of vacant housing in Israel?
Where you take your info from Al Jazira?
The whole issue of territories is about Israeli security.
The "dream" of of settling west bank has no hold in reality for most Israelis and is not the reason for us being there.
Who will guarantee my well benign when If border with PA will run 2 km from my house.
Do you think that maintain this kind of security will be cheaper?
Will the UN and EU intervene when mortal shells and rockets fall on Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.
Will UN Back Israel if military action style "Cast Lead" will be needed?
All UN can do is talk and send rice to third world coutures while trying to maintain political correctness keeping every one happy.
Can the PA guarantee Israeli security?
Who will guarantee that PA will still be in power tomorrow.
From my point of vew West Bank settelments and Israeli army there are scurity buffer keeping truble away from hart of Israel.
Your thinking is typical European naive way that has no hold in reality.
From my point of view at current state of matters its a suicide.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Priorites. Syria, biggest problem. Forget Iran for now as Syria is more important to sort. Once again illegal settlements have to go and annexation is illegal since the Nazis fell. Demilitarisation of Golan must be guaranteed with teeth and international pressure must force syria to get rid of its WMDs and guarantee a negotioted equitable agreement on water rights.
Leb, simple screw Hezballah by pulling out of half the remaining village and turn the farms area over to Lebanon, that removes their "legitimate" claims, brings compliance on another issue and pulls the rug from Syria. If you stop feeding the beast it will weaken, keep piling it with fresh food and it gorges. Don't forget that Hez is a product of a proxy war that was the product of a proxy war.
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You have lot of faith in international community but Israeli have less and less.
We simply can not base decisions on faith in international community.
Naive thinking again.
think again.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Hamas, heres the bugger, Trimble could have given a few pointers on this. You have to talk to them, you have to make concessions to them and you have to demand concessions from them. Nothing will be achieved otherwise and the current state of affairs is simply unsustainable for all involved.
The same arguements which are now being used against this process are exactly the same arguements which have been used against the same process every time up until the point that they get past the dumb obstinacy and do it.

Would you like to go on to the other States which are still officialy at war with Israel or explore the proposals put forward by the wahibis ?

You have to talk to hammas?
Hammas ideology can not allow to make any substential compromise worth the paper writen on.
So whats the point.

I really hoped that you would surprise me but its all typical bull.