Skybird, this is getting really tiresome.
This debate runs like this
Skybird: The Sky is red
Gammel: no, its blue
Skybird: The Sky is red
Gammel: Nope, defnition of blue is this, that, laid down here and there
Skybird: The Sky is red, can't you see that?
Gammel: Nope, I can't, neither scientifically nor in the public sense of that word
Skybird: The Sky is read, how often to i have to repeat myself until you understand?
Gammel: Please lay out why you think so
Skybird: The Sky is red because I see it that way
Gammel: And your scientific basis?
Skybird: The Sky is red, because it always was red and always will be red
Gammel: *Headdesk*
Let's put that to rest.