[Skybird]

Mookie,

I indeed would welcome a little bit more self-restraint by some hetero people, regarding their behavior in public, mardi gras and spring break. It is about nudity, prolly behaviour, and provokating obscenity. That does not mean I am prude or want to kill joy for the kids who suffer their hormone storm. But when locals have so many complains about German young tourists on Mallorca behaving bad and loud all night and turning the beach into a alcohol-filling station including free vomitting opportunity, then I have full understanding for such complaints, and locals considering sanctions of any kind - like I have understanding for people turning angry and even physical if a porn crew shots a scene on a bank in a public park, just behind a bush (I once ran into that in Berlin, some SM-movie apparently, and I did not like that happening to me at all). If people think they need to pose with their sexual drive, and I need to witness that and get confronted with their narcissim and exibitionism that violates most people'S sense of shame, then I rate that as an attack not different from a severe offense, name calling and even a physical attack. And when I get attacked in any of these ways, I reserve the right to defend myself and strike the attacker as hard as needed to make him stop.

Viper,

I have said often enough that I very well differ between

- normal gays, of whom since months I have said that we should let them live in peace and do not care for their private
business and make no big tamtam of them if they don'T do that on their behalf, too (kind of don't ask, don't tell!), and

- freak gays doing what I complaind about above, whether it be Christopher Street Day, or just behaving any day like an azz.

If you look like a bitch, dress yourself like a bitch, behave like a bitch, act like a bitch, talk like a bitch - then you probably are nobody I must value, respect and must care for, but you most likely simply are a bitchy bitch.

With normal gays not making a showact of themselves I'm fine, and always was. And I'm not even uncomfortable about them (because Steve and Gammelpreusse said they are, in the other thread). They can expect neither advanatges nor disadvanatges from me. I just do not accept them being equalised in status, recognition and tax benefits with families and hetero couples (see the other thread, I will not explain it all again here).