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Old 01-18-11, 04:32 PM   #6
Takeda Shingen
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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet View Post
Dont misunderstand me.

in a way, all good men seek social justice.

however, in our society, there are those who appear to believe that it is the place of our federal government to impose social justice on its people.

do i give to causes which could be considered "social justice causes"?

of course i do, i wont say to which, nor will i say how much, but i do when i can afford to.

I believe though, that it should be up to the individual to do so freely, with a proud and glad heart... not forced under duress.

thats all im saying, and i think what Glenn Beck is trying to say - or at least what i took away from the video... is that it might be a more enjoyable thing to pay taxes toward social justice type programs wherein the individual parting with their money is able to see the good that it does instead of just writing a check to a cold, bureaucratic organization parting with money that is never to be seen or heard from again and in all likelihood will go to some senator's pet project.

On another note: I'm not sure i understand the folks today who attack religion.

I used to do it, but the more i open my eyes to it i begin to see that your experience with religion depends exactly upon where you go to have your experience.

I have had good experiences, and i have had bad experiences, but one thing i have learned here in the past few years is that i should try harder not to lump people into one category based on their color, or religion or their political position.

thats not always easy, sometimes is damned hard. but i try still.

its very discouraging to see some of the very people who would say things like: "Dont hate the man because he is black." or "Be more fair to our immigrants legal or illegal" or "refrain from saying things that are antisemitic"

those same people would run you down the minute you say you're a Christian or even dare mention Christianity or God... because the moment you do they assume that you want to force your religion on them, force God into government, want to hoard guns and kill people.

there isnt a two way street in these kinds of discussions, and i gave some people here too much credit to start with.

Am i a Christian?

you bet your arse

Do i love Christ?

you bet your arse

Do i cuss and drink and look at girls when they walk by and skip church virtually every sunday?

again... you bet your arse

do i think God should be part of the government or that the church should be part of the government or that everyone should be Christian.

not no but hell no.
What I am saying is that Glenn Beck is not a fool. I do not like him. I do not agree with him. Still, he is drawing an analogy between 'social justice' and the crusades. It is not one that has anything to do with faith, gods or dogma. Rather it is one that has to do with futility. The crusades were a futile endeavor; the arbitrary capture of a city from an imaginary enemy. The Islamic world was not a threat to western Christendom, and yet western Christians were forced into support of a supposed religious crusade with the true objective of (1) eliminating an eastern Christian rival and (2) capturing a city from an imagined enemy. Beck is clearly drawing the comparison between this fruitless, and utimately destructive event and the modern democratic movement.

He is saying that progressivism is beholden to a destructive quasi-crusade in the vein of the religious crusades of old. The message is not particularly subtle.
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