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Originally Posted by Growler
I didn't watch the video
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says it all, thanks for playing
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Originally Posted by Growler
Tithing = brainwashed supporting of "church causes" like the legal defense funds for pedopriests.
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Or like the church i attend semi-annually sending a team of Doctors and Nurses to third world countries to provide first rate free medical care to people who have diseases that would easily kill someone in such a nation.
all i asked for was an open mind and six minutes... instead i got the door slammed in my face
Its my fault though, i gave far too much credit.
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Originally Posted by Growler
Celebrities griping about taxes. Poor freaking babies.
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I dont think Oprah was complaining about taxes, just pointing out how much she pays. (But you didnt watch the video to hear her direct audio did you?) the point of the video, is "Why is the united States government in the business of forced charity?" besides... high taxation is a burden on everyone. the more pet programs the government has, the more you are going to pay for them
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Originally Posted by Growler
Need to drink more coffee and extract the car from the block of ice it's in.
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Amongst other things i suppose.
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Originally Posted by Armistead
I heard another spill he gave on tithing, that all should tithe so the church could take care of all social issues.
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that i wouldnt agree with, however, if i am forced to "tithe" to the IRS, should i not be allowed to choose the social issue to which my money is sent?
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Originally Posted by Armistead
I wouldn't trust a church no more than the IRS.
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Funny, lots of people say that exact thing... yet... for some reason they continue to open their check books to the IRS every single year do they not?
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Originally Posted by Armistead
Sure, some do great things, but overall religion believes in using government and law to push their moral agenda. They want God in government, but only their beliefs. I"m sure they would love to combine religion and politics like past days.
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combining God and government would be a disaster, i dont think i once heard anyone say the Church should be placed in charge of anything... what i DID HEAR was a man comparing "tithing" to paying the IRS.
in the case of tithin you see where your money goes and you see its direct impact on your community or a community a world away. an individual who "tithes" does so because they WANT TO, not because they have to.
In the case of Taxes for welfare and social justice programs, your hands are tied, if uncle sam says you have to "tithe" the the IRS... guess what, you have to.
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Originally Posted by Armistead
Most religious groups follow the GOP. They don't want healthcare for children, any help social programs, but will sell their souls to corporate america to make a few percent rich.
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Im not a big church goer,
but that statement is so far out of line with the truth i dont even know what to say.