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Old 01-09-11, 12:27 PM   #10
Aramike
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I took TDW's little rant as being against gay marriage/gay couples adopting a kid. That's what I was going for there.
Fair enough.
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The answer to irrational bigotry and intolerance isn't for the victim to grow thicker skin.
Why not?

If the "irrational bigotry" you're referring to merely is using traditional terms such as "mother" and "father", than again, why not?
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Because hate isn't a value.
Disagreement and opposition isn't necessarily hate, either.
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And as I've said before, if the majority doesn't want to recognize the worth and value and equality of human beings just because they're gay, then yes, that idea needs to be rammed into their heads.
If by "value" you mean generically human life, I would agree with you. If by "value" you mean one's abilities to perform functions, either by biological imperative or one's ideological leanings, such values SHOULD be questioned.

Not doing so is along the same lines as allowing people with horrible eyesight to fly airplanes in the name of civil rights, which makes no sense.

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Civil rights trudges on, no matter how much people kick and scream and wail against it.
Civil rights are indeed important, but they shouldn't fly in the face of pragmatic sensibilities nor preclude discussion of an individual's fitness regarding the ability to engage in society's most important functions. And, being a member of a larger subgroup does, in some ways, define the individual. If those particular definitions are seen as detrimental to certain functions, engagement in those functions should be examined.
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