MH , again you are burying your head in the sand and saying that other people simply know nothing.
My mind is a bit fuzzy so could you remind me of that untra-orthadox Rabbi who got into trouble last week for saying that the ultra-orthodox were going to destroy the state(though strictly speaking from an ultra perspective the state of Israel doesn't exist does it).
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Now i dont care what orthodox do inside their own comunites as long as i or them have choice to do otherwise.
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Thats the problem isn't it, they are extending their choice onto other communities and making them comply with their own fundamentalist views.
After all they couldn't be attacking people for driving cars or burning down business premisis if they were only sharing their own values by choice within their own community.