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Originally Posted by Bubblehead Nuke
If you have never been to sea then you have ZERO frame of reference, It would be like explaining color to a blind man. My fellow sailors know what I am talking about.
I would have NO problem with someone telling to me to 'blow them' and making obscene gestures while I was underway. Does it make me or them gay? no.. it breaks up the dreary days. It puts some color and humor into what would be 'yet another day'. They would have no problem with me saying the same to them.
I have looked my old XO in the eyes and asked him 'What are you doing here you wop.' Yes, he was a big italian man and PROUD of his heritage. I once asked him to go see the doc about his case of rectumitis. Was I being disrespectful? Technically yes, but at the same time it was done in a situation where he understoood the humor and laughed about it. I respected than man then and I still do now. He also knew, and I mean KNEW, that I would do anything if told to without question.
The WOMEN I worked with were rauncher than the guys. They considered themselves one of the guys (and accepted as an equal) when you could make an off color sexual joke around them without worrying about the consequenses.
They have been recording these things since BEFORE nuclear power. Go into the archives and you could say the same things about EVERY officer EVER commissioned. I guarentee it. Go ahead, pick your branch of service. Pick your country. This happens EVERY DAY somewhere. It happened yesterday and it will happen tommorrow.
What does this have to do with anything? Umm.. ulitmately it is his JOB. His job is to command people in the systematic efficient dealing of death. He is not a movie producer. He is not a elected offical. He is there to kill other people on command. Everything else is a collateral duty that supports his primary function. So he has a poor sense of humor and is a lousy writer. Are these reasons to remove him from command? They have NOTHING to do with his primary job.
So, if the CO's command is ready to carry out its duty then the man has DONE HIS JOB. Everything else is paperwork.
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I understand what you're saying, but I haven't been to sea so forgive my uninformed opinion.
I think any time you get a group of guys together, they're going to rib each other using all kinds of offensive crap and slurs. We do it at work all the time. I don't think anyone would begrudge anyone doing that sort of thing with your buddies. But do you think it's a good idea to commit that stuff to film and distribute it across the ship to people you know and people you don't know? There's stuff I'd say to some of the guys at work that I wouldn't dream of saying to other guys I work with. By broadcasting the film shipwide, you're essentially saying this stuff to everyone.
And an officer committing it to film gives it a sort of institutionalized stamp of approval which doesn't really happen if he's doing it in a one-on-one situation with guys he knows.