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toniloCoyote · 01-05-11, 08:49 AM

Trevally, makman:

Thank you, makman, I was racking my brains about the mean of "Mil".
I suppose you mean an "angular mil" (NATO adopted angular measurement), the same than in sniper's rifle scopes.

I have found an useful article in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_mil
and an on-line calculator at:
http://www.convertworld.com/en/angle/

Yesterday night, just before going to sleep, I was thinking about some facts:

1- We must not care about the ship's measurements in the real world.
2- We must not care about the measurements in Recognition Manuals.
3- We must not complicate things neither look through the periscope while observing the clock and relying on the accuracy of 3D engine's light projection, in order to calculate anything (in development time).
3- If we want to make calculations in the virtual world of SH5 we need to deal only with this virtual world and its ships, that is, with the 3D models which move along this model of the world.

It makes sense that the modelers guys are not the same people than the developers nor the same people than the documentalists and the history investigators; so, it makes sense that there will be some discrepancies between their works. You cannot ask to a 3D modeler guy to make all the 3D pieces of a ship at the exact measure as it was in the real world and then request him that all these pieces fit in well all together. So, the modeler's final output rules, and we want to sink these final outputs.

I was thinking too that the draft of a ship is not a modeler's decision but a ship's behavior, so this data must be in the .sim file of the ship, and makman has confirmed this fact.
Then, if I can measure with total accuracy the full height of a ship's 3D model (I can), we can have the exact mast height with the formula: mastHeight = fullHeight - draft

Am I wrong?
Will be worth the effort? (For each ship I need to open the ship's model in Granny Viewer and write down its full Height, and then open in Silent 3ditor and write down its draft).

If so, let me know, and I'll begin with that.

Trevally, I think that the fact that makman points out, will complicate things. What do you think? I don't yet understand why the 5.71 factor pointed by makman.

5.71 degrees =
101.51 Mil (NATO)
95.17 Mil (URSS)
99.93 Mil (Sweeden)

(sorry for my insufficient English; I hope I have explained myself correctly)

01-05-11, 08:49 AM	#83
toniloCoyote Bosun Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 66 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Trevally, makman: Thank you, makman, I was racking my brains about the mean of "Mil". I suppose you mean an "angular mil" (NATO adopted angular measurement), the same than in sniper's rifle scopes. I have found an useful article in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_mil and an on-line calculator at: http://www.convertworld.com/en/angle/ Yesterday night, just before going to sleep, I was thinking about some facts: 1- We must not care about the ship's measurements in the real world. 2- We must not care about the measurements in Recognition Manuals. 3- We must not complicate things neither look through the periscope while observing the clock and relying on the accuracy of 3D engine's light projection, in order to calculate anything (in development time). 3- If we want to make calculations in the virtual world of SH5 we need to deal only with this virtual world and its ships, that is, with the 3D models which move along this model of the world. It makes sense that the modelers guys are not the same people than the developers nor the same people than the documentalists and the history investigators; so, it makes sense that there will be some discrepancies between their works. You cannot ask to a 3D modeler guy to make all the 3D pieces of a ship at the exact measure as it was in the real world and then request him that all these pieces fit in well all together. So, the modeler's final output rules, and we want to sink these final outputs. I was thinking too that the draft of a ship is not a modeler's decision but a ship's behavior, so this data must be in the .sim file of the ship, and makman has confirmed this fact. Then, if I can measure with total accuracy the full height of a ship's 3D model (I can), we can have the exact mast height with the formula: mastHeight = fullHeight - draft Am I wrong? Will be worth the effort? (For each ship I need to open the ship's model in Granny Viewer and write down its full Height, and then open in Silent 3ditor and write down its draft). If so, let me know, and I'll begin with that. Trevally, I think that the fact that makman points out, will complicate things. What do you think? I don't yet understand why the 5.71 factor pointed by makman. 5.71 degrees = 101.51 Mil (NATO) 95.17 Mil (URSS) 99.93 Mil (Sweeden) (sorry for my insufficient English; I hope I have explained myself correctly) Last edited by toniloCoyote; 01-05-11 at 09:36 AM.