[QUOTE=Jan Kyster;1566961]The japanese optical rangefinders would be placed very high up, but we'll have to find some blueprint to tell the exact position...

Personally I've always dived when the topsides are visible - if we can see
that, then someone or something up there can see us... at least that's what I
prefer to imagine.
well I thought since the Surcouf had those big guns... 
then again yesterday I won a fight against a DD in a single mission where you recon a harbor (and find 3 carriers - all down thanks to the 24v torpedoes) but sank when I crash dived.. ! I was full of holes...
I confess, I know absolutely nothing about french 8" shells - but can only imagine it would be a nasty experience being in the impact area...
yep, a nasty experience to say the least !
When I sit in one of my favorite places in the harbour, I can see ships as they enter the bay (between
Fanoe and
Skallingen 
)
beautiful place ! lucky you ! I just went and took a look on :
http://www.visitfanoe.dk/internation...ebilleder.htm#

- that's a distance of about 9 km - and as my position above sealevel is about the same as being on a sub, I would say SHIV has it spot on... this planet is a really, really tiny thing.
right ! I remember now watching ships go by in Knokke, but i didn't know how far they were, true that outside the range of my binoculars they kindo disappeared...
From another spot at the southern end of the harbour I can clearly see the curvature - overlooking the tidal area, the
marsk. 18 km away I can see only the very top of one the oldest churches in Denmark and it's 52 meters high ~ height of a battleship
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Here's a Shimakaze, where the rangefinder - and a lookout basket? - is clearly visible:
For larger image:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Taisho_11.jpg
If you're referring to the image here (Surcouf thread)
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=184
indeed...
then you're clearly visible from their rangefinder. And should imho be under heavy fire...
same basket on the Yukikaze :
larger image
can we change one destroyer type only, then have someone make a single mission with her, and see what gives ?
I can't make missions 
keltos