[Bubblehead Nuke]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Your arguement there is pretty bad, sure, i have never been to sea, nor have i been kept 'sane' by acting like a goose. You have missed the real point of all of this, that is that a person of high standing and in command of men and power has to face the consequences of his actions. Not because it's what 'boys' do to relieve some pressures of the job, and to keep them sane. I agree, entertainment should be high on the priority of crew serving anywhere, be it at sea or on land, or indeed under it. However, there are lines that shouldn't be crossed, not by front line soldiers, and certainly not by commanding officers. Even worse.

If you have never been to sea then you have ZERO frame of reference, It would be like explaining color to a blind man. My fellow sailors know what I am talking about.

I would have NO problem with someone telling to me to 'blow them' and making obscene gestures while I was underway. Does it make me or them gay? no.. it breaks up the dreary days. It puts some color and humor into what would be 'yet another day'. They would have no problem with me saying the same to them.

I have looked my old XO in the eyes and asked him 'What are you doing here you wop.' Yes, he was a big italian man and PROUD of his heritage. I once asked him to go see the doc about his case of rectumitis. Was I being disrespectful? Technically yes, but at the same time it was done in a situation where he understoood the humor and laughed about it. I respected than man then and I still do now. He also knew, and I mean KNEW, that I would do anything if told to without question.

The WOMEN I worked with were rauncher than the guys. They considered themselves one of the guys (and accepted as an equal) when you could make an off color sexual joke around them without worrying about the consequenses.

Yea a medal for being pretty ignorant and a bad selection of the entertainment content, and even worse, filming it.

They have been recording these things since BEFORE nuclear power. Go into the archives and you could say the same things about EVERY officer EVER commissioned. I guarentee it. Go ahead, pick your branch of service. Pick your country. This happens EVERY DAY somewhere. It happened yesterday and it will happen tommorrow.

Oh but we do let the forces do their jobs. I don't understand your last part though, you have mentioned that twice now, about the killing of people if they threaten our/your/anyone's country. What does that have to do with all of this?

What does this have to do with anything? Umm.. ulitmately it is his JOB. His job is to command people in the systematic efficient dealing of death. He is not a movie producer. He is not a elected offical. He is there to kill other people on command. Everything else is a collateral duty that supports his primary function. So he has a poor sense of humor and is a lousy writer. Are these reasons to remove him from command? They have NOTHING to do with his primary job.

So, if the CO's command is ready to carry out its duty then the man has DONE HIS JOB. Everything else is paperwork.