[Gammelpreusse]

Stances in this thread reminds me of "all Germans are Nazis" blames.

I had two basic experiences with Turks.

One in school, where I got bullied regularly on my way home through a Turkish quarter. Kinda left a bad impression

Second at work, where the two Turks we had were as cool and geeky as the rest of us. Cool guys, highly creative and more work ethics then most Germans in their 30ies growing up in liberal lala land 80ies. Left some highly positive impressions. Unluckily the latter two by now moved out of the country for various reasons. Constant bad tasted jokes and comparisons to the first group mentioned here amongst them. It went as far that those two guys adopted the stereotypes, so much ppl expected them to be this way anyways. Nothing radical, just a constant reminder that they were different, even if they were not.

What does this tell us, and what conclusions can be drawn here?

P.S. Remarks that some political parties want to get rid of Germany are a bad joke and show more ideological confrontation then objectivity. Even "die Linke" is comfortable with Germany these days. Would be better if they actually weren't just to get a bit more variety into politics instead of this huge big conformist mud.

P.P.S. I can trace my family roots back to the 15th century, when my folks came into Germany from the Austrian parts of the Holy Roman Empire. It's getting blurry before that. Throw in some Habsburg bastard blood and it is as German as you can get. Can't offer blue eyes nor blonde hair, though. Can't exactly say I can appreciate historic late comer Prussia defining what Germans have to look and behave like. On top of it, I seriously can't stand a couple typically german traits. It's the 21th century, for gods sake, and just because there is some economic crisis and the typical radicalization coming with such times there is no reason to throw understanding and common sense out of the window for the sake of simple/convenient conclusions.