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Old 12-30-10, 09:23 PM   #9
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Cmon DF, I know you can do better, sending all Turks back is not possible - and a blank generalisation of a whole group.
You don't understand me entirely correctly it seems. I don't advocate sending all Turks back. What I'm talking about is sending those Turks back that do not want to obey the rules of *our* society. You live in Germany, you speak German. You live in Germany, you behave as a German. Simple as that.

I do realize this is hardly doable and not a solution.
Something that might be a solution is being harsher to immigrants that do not want to adept themselves. For example, at least here in the Netherlands pretty much every official information leaflet is written in Dutch, Turkish and Arabic, and often in Papiamento as well. This really needs to stop. If they can't read it, they should take lessons. We should force them to assimilate into our culture, not assimilate ourselves into theirs.

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I grew up in a poor part of town with a huge immigrant population, I know what I am talking about.
Me too. I know just as well what I'm talking about as you do.

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However in the 80s, if you spoke ****ty german, you would be laughed at - today there is an alarming trend to talk like a bullet blew away half you brain - among most teenagers.
Agree with you here. Nowadays youth usually under the influence of (c)rap music tries to adopt immigrant cultures.

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The reason many people stay in this country where they despise it's laws and it's population is easy to determine: It's all about the money. They stay here for job opportunities/welfare. However: if someone is into sharia, there are plenty of countries who offer this opportunity...
Exactly! So if you want to have sharia law, go find work somewhere else. If you come to Germany to work, you're there as a guest and you should behave as such (it's called "guest worker" for a reason).

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Well, one of my granddads had an "arian certification" (Ariernachweis) till 1750, but we are are weird mutt mix, originally from SE Europe several 100 years ago. My other side are mostly of eastern european descent. Throw in East-Prussian, Polish, maybe some jewish heritage too. German since many generations. Many people think I look polish - whatever poles look like.
You probably look less stereotypically German because of this. But again, not every German looks the same as any other German. As you say, your family has lived in Germany for many generations and from the sounds of it you have perfectly adopted German culture. It would be wrong not to call you German.

Myself, I'm a Dutchman, but I prefer to see myself as a Franconian. My family comes from the border area of the historical Franconian and Saxon tribes. I'm probably for the largest part Franconian (Chamavian/Salian), but definitely with large Saxon influences.
That said, there is no such thing as "pure blood". There have always been influences from outside the Germanic territory. One big example is Attila the Hun who brought Asian blood into Europe through his conquests.

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The Germans were always a mix of several different tribes. Just take a look at the names for Germans in several languages. Deutsche, Duitse, aleman, allemandes, tyska, saksan, tedeschi, niemcy...
Germanic history, religion and culture is one of my hobbies so if there's anyone you shouldn't need to tell this it's me

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