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Originally Posted by the_tyrant
@Skybird
don't worry. Here in canada we have a large Muslim population too
The first generation immigrants are still obviously muslim
the second generation is "Black".
My muslim friends dress in the same clothes as us, listen to the same music as us, eat the same foods as us, watch the same tv as us. They are exactly like the rest of us.
the thing is, western (mainly american) culture is more "infectious" than Muslim culture. It is easier to adapt to western culture than it is to Muslim culture.
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Strange, in England and Germany it is exactly the other way around - if you were right about Canada. The second generation German-Turks were more conservative than their parents, and now the third generation is more orthodox, not tzo saY: radical than the first and second generation. Their rejecion of Western values is more complete, their Turkish nationalism is more radical, their pro-Islamic demands are more total, and their readiness to accept/tolerate even violence to enforce Islamic rule is more widespread than ever before.
I have repeatedly hinted at statistic findings from Germany and England over the past couple of years illustrating this.
There is a reason for the appearance of Islam being better integrated in North America. Islam spreas and anchors in Canda and the US because both societies - being traditional immigration countries from their founding days on - are more uncritical and naive both regarding foreign immigrants, and the term "religion". I mean even scientoilogy gets accepted to be a "religion" instead of a criminal corporation in the US! Islam does not need to become loud in the US to grow and spread, it does so anyway, by much less spectacular ways, because it meets lesser opposition by the non-Muslim population than in Europe. Also, in europe, due to the chriuch tyranny and later the facist Nazio terror, the understanding and awareness of the danger of totalitarian dogmas and supremacist ideologies seem to be clearer and stronger, than in North America. And finally, North America and especially the US is more orthodox and sectarian in its christian self-conception, than in European countries, were almost everywhere the once existing dominance of the Christian churches are more and more put into question, and the American diversity of sects present in the public space does not exist over here, too. The fundamentalist or sectarian of the one religion may have more sympathy for the sectarian/fundamentalist person of another religion - birds of same feather flock together. And Islam does not know fundamentalism in just some of its schools or sects, but is fundamentalist in its very basic essence and teaching. - In Europe, the churches seem to hope they could benefit from helping Islam getting established over here - by that they seem to hope to re-establish a stronger obedience to religious dogmatism and authority claims of religious organisations in general (Islam AND the churches), so that they will regain some of their former political power and influence.